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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 ![]() |
Hey I finally logged the Blue Talon here is a 3rd gear pull.
CODE TIMA FTRL FTRM FTRH FTO2 O2-R MAFS ERPM KNCK INJP
35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 86.58 0.64 113.22 2156.25 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 93.60 0.06 113.22 2156.25 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 97.50 0.66 113.22 2156.25 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 86.58 0.70 113.22 2156.25 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 81.12 0.18 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 93.60 0.06 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 96.72 0.66 113.22 2156.25 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 85.80 0.68 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.05 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 78.78 0.16 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 90.48 0.06 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.06 0.55 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 88.92 0.68 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 80.34 0.21 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 92.04 0.08 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 100.62 0.60 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 89.70 0.72 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 80.34 0.68 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 85.80 0.04 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 36.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 95.16 0.31 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 83.46 0.08 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.06 0.51 113.22 2187.50 0.00 2.30 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 88.92 0.70 132.09 2218.75 0.00 3.33 33.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 91.26 0.02 283.05 2218.75 0.00 5.38 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.74 283.05 2281.25 0.00 5.89 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.74 301.92 2343.75 0.00 6.14 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.78 314.50 2406.25 0.00 6.40 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.80 333.37 2437.50 0.00 6.66 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.80 352.24 2531.25 0.00 6.91 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.80 371.11 2593.75 0.00 7.17 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.82 396.27 2656.25 0.00 7.17 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.84 415.14 2718.75 0.00 7.42 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.86 446.59 2812.50 0.00 7.68 28.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.84 465.46 2875.00 0.00 7.94 27.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.84 509.49 2968.75 0.00 8.19 26.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.84 553.52 3062.50 0.00 8.70 25.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.82 597.55 3156.25 0.00 9.47 25.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.84 673.03 3281.25 0.00 10.75 23.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.86 742.22 3406.25 0.00 12.54 21.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.86 886.89 3531.25 2.00 14.34 17.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.86 974.95 3625.00 2.00 16.13 15.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1107.04 3843.75 7.00 17.41 13.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1226.55 4000.00 13.00 17.66 12.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1245.42 4187.50 13.00 18.18 12.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1283.16 4156.25 12.00 18.18 12.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1346.06 4250.00 12.00 18.69 12.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1377.51 4531.25 12.00 18.69 12.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1408.96 4437.50 11.00 18.69 13.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1452.99 4656.25 11.00 18.69 13.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1446.70 4781.25 11.00 18.69 14.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1497.02 4750.00 10.00 18.43 14.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1503.31 4937.50 10.00 18.18 14.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1509.60 5125.00 10.00 18.18 14.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1528.47 5187.50 9.00 17.92 17.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1503.31 5312.50 9.00 17.92 16.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1566.21 5281.25 9.00 17.66 17.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1541.05 5500.00 8.00 17.41 17.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1515.89 5500.00 8.00 17.15 18.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1497.02 5375.00 8.00 17.15 19.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1553.63 5500.00 8.00 16.90 18.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1515.89 5593.75 7.00 16.64 20.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1572.50 5812.50 7.00 16.13 20.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1515.89 5937.50 7.00 15.87 24.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1541.05 5968.75 6.00 15.62 25.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1522.18 6093.75 6.00 15.62 24.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1559.92 6000.00 6.00 15.62 24.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1572.50 6156.25 5.00 15.10 26.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1566.21 6062.50 5.00 15.36 24.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1591.37 6093.75 5.00 15.10 25.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1553.63 6250.00 4.00 15.36 23.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1566.21 6468.75 4.00 15.62 21.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1585.08 6312.50 4.00 15.36 22.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1559.92 6406.25 3.00 15.36 23.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6468.75 3.00 15.62 22.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1585.08 6500.00 3.00 15.10 24.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6687.50 4.00 15.36 22.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6750.00 3.00 15.36 21.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6718.75 3.00 15.10 21.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6750.00 2.00 14.85 23.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6781.25 2.00 14.85 21.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1603.95 6718.75 2.00 14.85 20.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 1597.66 6968.75 1.00 5.38 35.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.62 320.79 6468.75 0.00 2.82 45.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.62 251.60 5937.50 0.00 3.33 44.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.82 868.02 5281.25 0.00 10.24 27.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.86 1037.85 5218.75 0.00 12.54 26.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1270.58 5125.00 0.00 15.10 22.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 1295.74 5125.00 0.00 13.31 26.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.92 886.89 5250.00 0.00 8.45 29.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.92 471.75 5250.00 0.00 3.84 38.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.90 339.66 5187.50 0.00 2.82 44.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.62 220.15 5062.50 0.00 1.79 45.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.62 169.83 5093.75 0.00 1.79 45.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.70 150.96 5031.25 0.00 1.54 45.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.82 125.80 5125.00 0.00 1.54 45.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.84 125.80 5000.00 0.00 1.28 45.00 120.90 99.84 109.20 99.84 0.88 106.93 4875.00 0.00 1.28 -------------------- |
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 ![]() |
Doesn't look that bad, some knock but it trails off pretty quickly. O2's looks pretty good also. How much boost are you running?
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 ![]() |
16 psi And it kicks in at 4 grand. That's where I noticed the spike in knock.
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 4-February 03 From: IA Member No.: 78 ![]() |
That log looks pretty good. I'm just wondering why your 14b doesn't kick in until 4k RPMs, though (unless that's just not listed in your mods
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Check your base timing. Also check for boost leaks. Either of those things can cause your knock and late spool.
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 ![]() |
Could it be because I'm running a Cyclone intake? Flappers work, I just have it hooked up through the purge selinoid. So it opens when the purge tells it to.
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 ![]() |
Why would you want a solenoid that normally controls emissions controlling your cyclone manifold flappers? I'm honestly curious because I don't know anything about when the purge solenoid opens/closes and what causes it to open/close. I got rid of mine a long time ago.
To be completely honest, if you are looking for the best overall flow, short of aftermarket, a non-cyclone USDM 1g manifold is the way to go. |
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 ![]() |
I already knew about the intakes a while ago. I have searched forums on DSMTuners for months on this subject of intakes. I do know that the purge opens about 3100 rpm. And if I ever get a eprom ecu, I can have it programed to open at 4400 when it is supposed to open.
I know most of you don't agree with running a cyclone intake. But I myself can feel a difference between the stocker and the cyclone. On my stocker my boost would creep up on a wot run. And with the cyclone it's like 4000 rpm and I am at full boost. I can tell when the flappers open cause it will get alot more torque when they do open. That is why I like running my cyclone. Now with Project Fireball I am giong to run a stocker on it. -------------------- |
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