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Justincredible
post Apr 29 2004, 01:47 PM
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post Apr 30 2004, 10:53 AM
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I don't think Marcus meant to infer that anyone who has gutted their car is classless. I think he was simply referring to a philosophy brought about by the Chi-town DSM's that he agrees with.

To me, gutting a car is another way to make it quicker. If the owner of the car doesn't mind that its gutted then that's all that matters. Its your car, do what you want. You defintely don't have to impress others with it. Its pointless since other peoples' tastes vary so much anyway. One person may have more respect for a quick full weight car because it can go fast even while heavy, while another may have more respect for the gutted car because he sees that the owner pulled out all the stops to attain the most speed that he can.

As many know my car has definetely been trimmed of some weight but I haven't taken it nearly as far as others on this board. I still have a full sized battery. I still have a complete front interior (well minus the hvac assembly under the dash, but that was removed for engine harness access more than weight savings). I still have a rear bumper. I still have much of my sound deadening material. I still have stock front seats. I also have a 6 point roll cage which definitely adds some weight. This is the path I have taken because it is what I want for my car. I know that taking more weight out would make it quicker, but I'm comfortable where its at now because I also know that leaving it full weight would make it slower.

The rule of the thumb is for every 100 lbs one gains a tenth of a second, but I believe Hammar made a post on CII a while ago pertaining to the hp vs. weight issue that brought some real numbers to the table. I can't remember what they were off the top of my head, but the basic premise seemed to be that the less the car weighs the more gains one will see by making the car weigh even less. An example would be one is going to see more gains from taking 100 lbs out of a 200 hp, 2000 lb car than taking 100 lbs out of a 200 hp, 3000 lb car.
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- Justincredible   just cutting the fat.   Apr 29 2004, 01:47 PM
- - xian 1g   that's what i like to see!!!! ...   Apr 29 2004, 02:07 PM
- - Justincredible   just scraped it. I'll prlly drop the power st...   Apr 29 2004, 02:12 PM
- - MidwestDSM   QUOTE (Justincredible @ Apr 29 2004, 01:47 PM...   Apr 29 2004, 02:18 PM
- - xian 1g   wow, for just scraping it, it looks like it came o...   Apr 29 2004, 02:31 PM
- - resalturbo   hoping to do the same on my next day off looks ...   Apr 29 2004, 02:33 PM
- - JMoushon   I don't know if I'd be willing to deal wit...   Apr 29 2004, 03:01 PM
- - Justincredible   QUOTE (xian 1g @ Apr 29 2004, 02:31 PM)Are yo...   Apr 29 2004, 03:15 PM
- - JMoushon   s a r c a s m i s c o o l.   Apr 29 2004, 03:32 PM
- - Justincredible   LOL. point taken.   Apr 29 2004, 03:38 PM
- - xian 1g   i'm nuts and i don't care... I understand ...   Apr 29 2004, 03:45 PM
- - Benny Z   hatch went on a diet tonight, too.   Apr 29 2004, 10:48 PM
- - JMoushon   Just so all know, I like weight savings, regardles...   Apr 29 2004, 10:52 PM
- - MidwestDSM   niiice BZ.   Apr 29 2004, 10:52 PM
- - Benny Z   QUOTE (JMoushon @ Apr 29 2004, 10:52 PM)Just ...   Apr 29 2004, 10:55 PM
- - JMoushon   Saweet. I look forward to seeing something that v...   Apr 29 2004, 10:58 PM
- - Benny Z   spy might disagree with you on my car "accell...   Apr 29 2004, 11:03 PM
- - JMoushon   Wow. That's funny.   Apr 30 2004, 07:13 AM
- - Mike   Nice benny!   Apr 30 2004, 07:36 AM
- - awd4kicks   No offense to those that want to gut. I think gut...   Apr 30 2004, 09:01 AM
- - Rollout   Well put, im with marcus.. I like looking slow .. ...   Apr 30 2004, 09:08 AM
- - AWD DSM 1   QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Apr 30 2004, 09:01 AM)No o...   Apr 30 2004, 09:17 AM
- - Benny Z   i'm not offended. i agree, it's definatel...   Apr 30 2004, 09:46 AM
- - xian 1g   My .02, and I'm not arguing with you marcus, I...   Apr 30 2004, 10:28 AM
- - boxer   QUOTE (Benny Z @ Apr 29 2004, 10:48 PM)hatch ...   Apr 30 2004, 10:41 AM
- - natedogg   I don't think Marcus meant to infer that anyon...   Apr 30 2004, 10:53 AM
- - Benny Z   nope...it's my dad's 50th b-day. plus, i...   Apr 30 2004, 10:54 AM
- - Justincredible   I did it only mine cause my hatch plastic was gros...   Apr 30 2004, 11:13 AM
- - MidwestDSM   I personally run my Laser with full leather interi...   Apr 30 2004, 11:36 AM
- - Benny Z   QUOTE (MidwestDSM @ Apr 30 2004, 11:36 AM)I e...   Apr 30 2004, 12:59 PM
- - xian 1g   whoah, didn't mean to start a debate here. .. ...   Apr 30 2004, 01:55 PM
- - awd4kicks   Here are a few points. Some I tried to convey ear...   Apr 30 2004, 02:22 PM
- - JMoushon   Troy: I dont think you need to LOWER your power t...   Apr 30 2004, 03:10 PM
- - JMoushon   Maybe weight to power? Or you could raise your po...   Apr 30 2004, 03:13 PM
- - MidwestDSM   QUOTE (Benny Z @ Apr 30 2004, 12:59 PM)QUOTE ...   Apr 30 2004, 03:21 PM
- - wortdog   The term go fast with class orginated with the Bui...   Apr 30 2004, 04:06 PM
- - awd4me   how hard is it to take out the cruise contro and a...   Apr 30 2004, 05:34 PM
- - JMoushon   About as hard as changing the oil. Unless you wan...   Apr 30 2004, 07:45 PM
- - katie   he was at the chinese place.....he's the one w...   Apr 30 2004, 08:57 PM
- - katie   ha ha ha marcus=awd4licks=guy from slo pny= guy wh...   Apr 30 2004, 09:11 PM
- - Benny Z   hey jim... i found a scale today at lunch to hop ...   Apr 30 2004, 10:55 PM
- - JMoushon   Ben: 2240 is nice. Really nice. But from your p...   May 1 2004, 12:14 AM
- - Benny Z   QUOTE (JMoushon @ May 1 2004, 12:14 AM)Ben: ...   May 1 2004, 12:16 AM
- - akamiami   QUOTE (Benny Z @ May 1 2004, 04:55 AM)i might...   May 1 2004, 12:57 AM


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