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Justincredible
post Apr 29 2004, 01:47 PM
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post Apr 30 2004, 02:22 PM
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Here are a few points. Some I tried to convey earlier and others to clear up some things...

This is an opinion just as anyones posts are.
I was not directing any ridicule towards anyones car on DSMCentral.
I do see a trend of more gutted DSM's these days. (Kris used to be it locally)
There are numerous gutted DSM's in the 14-15 second range
There are stock bodied DSMs runing faster than 14's without big turbos

My point a DSM does not 'have to be' lightened to be fast if it is massaged and tuned well (Big turbo or not). I do understand the theory of power to weight ratio, I'm just making sure that everyone realizes time spent tuning and building can make more of a difference in acceleration then conducting weight loss programs at these ET levels. Now in the 8-10 second range there may be nothing more potent than a weight loss program.

To clear some things up...
Thanks for the kind words, but I can not be considered very, very fast considering the caliber of cars present on this site not to mention the DSM comunity as a whole.

I definitely do not fault anyone for not having money to put in their cars. I lived on the stock parts for ever and have yet to be succesfull otherwise.

I do not leave my car with a full interior to impress anyone. Quite the opposite, I actually like the sleeper attitude and lack of attention gained by a stock yet clean 1G DSM. However, for three years this car was my ONLY daily driver and the vehicle I hauled my kids around in. So my priorities are a bit different than others, but it didn't slow me down any.


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- Justincredible   just cutting the fat.   Apr 29 2004, 01:47 PM
- - xian 1g   that's what i like to see!!!! ...   Apr 29 2004, 02:07 PM
- - Justincredible   just scraped it. I'll prlly drop the power st...   Apr 29 2004, 02:12 PM
- - MidwestDSM   QUOTE (Justincredible @ Apr 29 2004, 01:47 PM...   Apr 29 2004, 02:18 PM
- - xian 1g   wow, for just scraping it, it looks like it came o...   Apr 29 2004, 02:31 PM
- - resalturbo   hoping to do the same on my next day off looks ...   Apr 29 2004, 02:33 PM
- - JMoushon   I don't know if I'd be willing to deal wit...   Apr 29 2004, 03:01 PM
- - Justincredible   QUOTE (xian 1g @ Apr 29 2004, 02:31 PM)Are yo...   Apr 29 2004, 03:15 PM
- - JMoushon   s a r c a s m i s c o o l.   Apr 29 2004, 03:32 PM
- - Justincredible   LOL. point taken.   Apr 29 2004, 03:38 PM
- - xian 1g   i'm nuts and i don't care... I understand ...   Apr 29 2004, 03:45 PM
- - Benny Z   hatch went on a diet tonight, too.   Apr 29 2004, 10:48 PM
- - JMoushon   Just so all know, I like weight savings, regardles...   Apr 29 2004, 10:52 PM
- - MidwestDSM   niiice BZ.   Apr 29 2004, 10:52 PM
- - Benny Z   QUOTE (JMoushon @ Apr 29 2004, 10:52 PM)Just ...   Apr 29 2004, 10:55 PM
- - JMoushon   Saweet. I look forward to seeing something that v...   Apr 29 2004, 10:58 PM
- - Benny Z   spy might disagree with you on my car "accell...   Apr 29 2004, 11:03 PM
- - JMoushon   Wow. That's funny.   Apr 30 2004, 07:13 AM
- - Mike   Nice benny!   Apr 30 2004, 07:36 AM
- - awd4kicks   No offense to those that want to gut. I think gut...   Apr 30 2004, 09:01 AM
- - Rollout   Well put, im with marcus.. I like looking slow .. ...   Apr 30 2004, 09:08 AM
- - AWD DSM 1   QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Apr 30 2004, 09:01 AM)No o...   Apr 30 2004, 09:17 AM
- - Benny Z   i'm not offended. i agree, it's definatel...   Apr 30 2004, 09:46 AM
- - xian 1g   My .02, and I'm not arguing with you marcus, I...   Apr 30 2004, 10:28 AM
- - boxer   QUOTE (Benny Z @ Apr 29 2004, 10:48 PM)hatch ...   Apr 30 2004, 10:41 AM
- - natedogg   I don't think Marcus meant to infer that anyon...   Apr 30 2004, 10:53 AM
- - Benny Z   nope...it's my dad's 50th b-day. plus, i...   Apr 30 2004, 10:54 AM
- - Justincredible   I did it only mine cause my hatch plastic was gros...   Apr 30 2004, 11:13 AM
- - MidwestDSM   I personally run my Laser with full leather interi...   Apr 30 2004, 11:36 AM
- - Benny Z   QUOTE (MidwestDSM @ Apr 30 2004, 11:36 AM)I e...   Apr 30 2004, 12:59 PM
- - xian 1g   whoah, didn't mean to start a debate here. .. ...   Apr 30 2004, 01:55 PM
- - awd4kicks   Here are a few points. Some I tried to convey ear...   Apr 30 2004, 02:22 PM
- - JMoushon   Troy: I dont think you need to LOWER your power t...   Apr 30 2004, 03:10 PM
- - JMoushon   Maybe weight to power? Or you could raise your po...   Apr 30 2004, 03:13 PM
- - MidwestDSM   QUOTE (Benny Z @ Apr 30 2004, 12:59 PM)QUOTE ...   Apr 30 2004, 03:21 PM
- - wortdog   The term go fast with class orginated with the Bui...   Apr 30 2004, 04:06 PM
- - awd4me   how hard is it to take out the cruise contro and a...   Apr 30 2004, 05:34 PM
- - JMoushon   About as hard as changing the oil. Unless you wan...   Apr 30 2004, 07:45 PM
- - katie   he was at the chinese place.....he's the one w...   Apr 30 2004, 08:57 PM
- - katie   ha ha ha marcus=awd4licks=guy from slo pny= guy wh...   Apr 30 2004, 09:11 PM
- - Benny Z   hey jim... i found a scale today at lunch to hop ...   Apr 30 2004, 10:55 PM
- - JMoushon   Ben: 2240 is nice. Really nice. But from your p...   May 1 2004, 12:14 AM
- - Benny Z   QUOTE (JMoushon @ May 1 2004, 12:14 AM)Ben: ...   May 1 2004, 12:16 AM
- - akamiami   QUOTE (Benny Z @ May 1 2004, 04:55 AM)i might...   May 1 2004, 12:57 AM


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