ignition timing and A/f Options

[ncgalant]

Alright, lets get down to it. I'm looking for power. Given that, which is better, a little richer and more ignition timing, or leaner and less timing? Currently I'm working toward the latter, but want some input from some that run fast.

Also, which is better for spool, lean or rich. I can't get my pre-boost #s into the rich range. If I do a 3rd gear pull from 1500-6500. My O2s will read .08 until 3500 or so when they jump up to .8 and then .9 around 4000. My setup is working, but I want it to be the best it can be. I can post up my SAFC settings if you guys want too. Their F'd up.

[ncgalant]

"VERY loaded" as in at WOT? I believe that it's based more on airflow, rpm and knock, which could be "converted" to load, I suppose. Even though you 2G guys can't read knock on a logger, it's supposedly still there, somehow.

yep, you hit the nail right on the head. By load I'm saying airflow/RPM. I can pull airflow with my SAFC and therefore pull load(less fuel, more timing) or vice versa. This really scared me when I first started tuning as I was seeing 28 degrees of timing at 12psi(fun byproduct of 720's). That was with it running really rich because I was afraid of running more timing.

Here is what I do know. Every person I've seen that makes good power on pump gas(450hp is good I'd say) is running 5-10 degrees of timing up top. I've never seen anyone run more. I am looking to do as much as I can on pump.

On a side note, I just want to make sure I'm comming off the right way. Sometimes I come off as trying to say that I'm right about something to people that don't know me really well. I'm just stating what I think to be right and am asking why its wrong. I'm always happy to be wrong, I just want to know why. You guys are being very helpful. Thanks gang, I just want to know what and why. I know I can make power. I just want to do it as best I can.