May 16 2004, 09:12 PM
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Alright, lets get down to it. I'm looking for power. Given that, which is better, a little richer and more ignition timing, or leaner and less timing? Currently I'm working toward the latter, but want some input from some that run fast.
Also, which is better for spool, lean or rich. I can't get my pre-boost #s into the rich range. If I do a 3rd gear pull from 1500-6500. My O2s will read .08 until 3500 or so when they jump up to .8 and then .9 around 4000. My setup is working, but I want it to be the best it can be. I can post up my SAFC settings if you guys want too. Their F'd up. -------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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May 18 2004, 09:41 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 18 2004, 08:45 AM) Higher boost is going to make the charge burn faster and therefore need less ignition timing to make that happen. I can't wholly agree with this. More boost begets more fuel. Basically to get more power you are trying to stuff more of both in to the combustion chamber while maintaining a safe yet efficient AFR. Since we have more matter in the chamber altogether its going to take more time for all that matter to burn. Obviously we have less time every stroke as the RPM increases so the timing is going to have to advance to maintain an efficient mixture, lest we start throwing fuel out the tailpipe or even worse leave it in the combustion chamber to detonate or wash the cylinder walls. Now exactly how much the timing needs to advance, I don't know. The 5 to 10 degrees of advance may be what works well for the guys on pump gas since it burns more quickly than race gas anyway. |
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ncgalant ignition timing and A/f May 16 2004, 09:12 PM
KOU In3 Spool should be better the leaner you are. Hotter... May 16 2004, 09:25 PM
ncgalant I know the stock O2 sensor is worthless, but I do ... May 17 2004, 06:20 AM
natedogg I'm pretty sure I have the map sensor (3 bar i... May 17 2004, 08:23 AM
ncgalant QUOTE I'm pretty sure I have the map sensor (3... May 17 2004, 09:36 AM
ICGerms Another option is to turn up your fuel pressure, t... May 17 2004, 09:42 AM
natedogg QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 17 2004, 09:36 AM)I... May 17 2004, 10:11 AM
ncgalant I can make my timing at 6000 be anywhere from 10-2... May 17 2004, 08:47 PM
ICGerms QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 17 2004, 08:47 PM)...If... May 17 2004, 09:02 PM
ncgalant All of those are assuming knock <3 counts. I... May 17 2004, 09:06 PM
ICGerms QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 17 2004, 09:06 PM)I... May 17 2004, 09:14 PM
ncgalant 1gs give out the timing easier. It was writen tha... May 17 2004, 10:01 PM
ICGerms QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 17 2004, 10:01 PM)If it... May 17 2004, 10:10 PM
ncgalant QUOTE "VERY loaded" as in at WOT? I beli... May 17 2004, 10:29 PM
ICGerms QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 17 2004, 10:29 PM)Every... May 18 2004, 12:28 AM
ncgalant QUOTE Really?!? Is that 1G or 2G? And what abo... May 18 2004, 08:45 AM
natedogg I don't know that there is any right or wrong ... May 18 2004, 09:28 AM
ICGerms QUOTE (natedogg @ May 18 2004, 09:41 AM)...Th... May 18 2004, 10:00 AM
ncgalant QUOTE I don't know that there is any right or ... May 18 2004, 10:02 AM
ncgalant QUOTE (ICGerms @ May 18 2004, 10:00 AM)QUOTE ... May 18 2004, 10:06 AM![]() ![]() |
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