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post Jun 22 2004, 09:51 PM
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For whatever reason Mitsubishi has decided to bite its own tail again. Sources inside the plant tell me one of the new concept Eclipses went down the line just a few days ago. Styling is supposed to be it's strong point. It was reported that many of the employees were very happy with the car aesthetically, which is pretty close to that of what was seen at the auto shows. However, power is where they are lacking. They will NOT have the AWD platform with a hybrid gas in front electric in back power plants. No turbos either. No Mitsubishi would rather eat itself into debt farther by simply replacing the V6 in the current Eclipse with a larger displacement (3.8L) power plant. Yet again I am dissapointed with Mitsubishi's poor judgement. It has been said over and over again by enthusiast and factory employee alike, people bought those cars (90-99) because they are a poor mans Porsche (sometimes better) and because of the organic, animal-like styling combination (95-99). You put performance and a hot body together and you've got yourself a winning combination. One without the other is simply a quadrapeligic, you're getting nowhere fast. Even the 1G cars are somewhat good looking. I hope sooner or later the realize what they're doing wrong. Oh and production is supposed to start early next year.


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post Jun 24 2004, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (turbohcar @ Jun 23 2004, 07:28 PM)
I agree, 90% of the cars sold from 95-99 were nonturbo but, the people that had turbo cars, even people that weren't car nuts, loved how quick and sporty they were.  In my opinion, people bought the nonturbo cars because they couldn't afford the higher sticker of a turbo car and settled for a car that just looked like it.  I'd like to think that if the 1G and 2G cars had been delayed a couple years they would be contenders with (and hopefully better than) Dodge against the SRT-4.  IMO, the SXT Neon is just like the nonturbo 2g cars, it just kinda looks like their bigger, more powerful version.

I'm not saying that EVO's aren't great for play time, its just when I hear the phrase "sports car" the EVO isn't the first one to come to mind.  IMO a sports car is defined by a short wheelbase, compact, lightweight, two door, two seater (if they did have four seats they were so small they were useless), with plenty of power to rip through the gears quickly.  Not that an EVO couldn't be considered a sports car, but I consider it to be a family sedan with a sports car motor dropped in it much like the SRT-4.  When I hear sports car, I think of the Mazda Miata, Porsche Carrera, etc.... cars of that breed.  The Eclipses to me were on the heavier, slightly less agile end of the sports car band.

Take some chances Mitsubishi, you've got nothing to lose.  Sacrifice some of that styling for more power and handling and keep the price close to $20k, it wouldn't hurt to try.


Maybe you should read more about the Evo's. I suggest the SCC mag that pits the Evo against a Porsche 911, a BMW M3, and Audi S4. Here's the link. http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features...many/index.html

Better handling? You can't get much better from the factory. Certainly not for 30 grand or less. Same goes for power. I'm not saying its an all out sports car in what most people accept to be the definition of the term, but I definitely wouldn't call it a family sedan. Not when the chassis has been specifically stiffened just for better handling. Its a purpose built 'race' car from the ground up based on a long standing rally racing background. You'll know that if you drive one, get a ride in one, or even sit in one. IMO, cars like the EVO, WRX, and SRT4 are changing the definition of the modern sports car.
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- turbohcar   New Mitsubishi Eclipse: Ehhh mediocre   Jun 22 2004, 09:51 PM
- - Larz   God the 2000 to present ones were enough of a diss...   Jun 23 2004, 06:57 AM
- - SCCA Stang   I agree, they should bring back the AWD and turbo,...   Jun 23 2004, 07:01 AM
- - Larz   QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Jun 23 2004, 07:01 AM)I a...   Jun 23 2004, 08:38 AM
- - ncgalant   Dad said he saw the first of th new eclipses run d...   Jun 23 2004, 08:41 AM
- - turbohcar   "people bought those cars (90-99) because the...   Jun 23 2004, 01:25 PM
- - ncgalant   look at it from Mitsubishi's point of view. 9...   Jun 23 2004, 01:31 PM
- - natedogg   I kinda like having 4 doors. Evo's are surpri...   Jun 23 2004, 01:35 PM
- - turbohcar   I agree, 90% of the cars sold from 95-99 were nont...   Jun 23 2004, 07:28 PM
- - JMoushon   I'm not sure I would even mention the EVO and ...   Jun 23 2004, 08:36 PM
- - zacd   my step dad works at the mitsubishi plant and he s...   Jun 24 2004, 12:42 AM
- - Justincredible   QUOTE (natedogg @ Jun 23 2004, 02:35 PM)I kin...   Jun 24 2004, 02:54 AM
- - natedogg   QUOTE (turbohcar @ Jun 23 2004, 07:28 PM)I ag...   Jun 24 2004, 08:18 AM
- - natedogg   QUOTE (Justincredible @ Jun 24 2004, 02:54 AM...   Jun 24 2004, 08:20 AM
- - awd4kicks   As far as the defenition of a sports car versus wh...   Jun 24 2004, 09:24 AM
- - natedogg   I'm not arguing the fact that the Evo doesn...   Jun 24 2004, 09:42 AM
- - awd4kicks   Hahaha...you don't have to try to clear anythi...   Jun 24 2004, 09:51 AM
- - natedogg   Ahh. Its one of those old person things. I see.....   Jun 24 2004, 11:15 AM
- - Justincredible   The grand am's 2 doors, smartass. [/quote] ...   Jun 24 2004, 11:20 AM
- - turbohcar   "But much like dsm's were when they first...   Jun 24 2004, 08:14 PM
- - natedogg   I'm not saying they don't have their simil...   Jun 25 2004, 04:12 PM


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