Jul 27 2004, 06:13 PM
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![]() DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Mahomet Illinois Member No.: 287 |
I've been hearing about 2g motors getting "crankwalk". what is it? how can i avoid it? can the 2g motor be modded so that this doesn't happen or do i have to swap a 1g? ....haha one more question....why don't the 6bolt 1g's get crankwalk compared to the 2g (what is it 7bolt? or 4?) whatever...help
-------------------- it's not a dsm unless it's leaking something
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Jul 27 2004, 06:35 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
here is an article in the dsmorg.com/archives....
Many have emailed me requesting the technical service bulletin information regarding the weakening of crankshaft bearings and the subsequent shift of the crankshaft, as it applies to 1995-1998 turbo 2.0 liter DSMs. The reason I can't find the TSB in the dealer's records is there has not yet been a TSB written for this problem. The District service manager for the southeast said they were in the process of writing the TSB for the Eclipses and Talons. There is already a TSB in effect for certain 3000GT's, but I'm not sure which models specifically since I breezed past the information sheets for them looking for DSM TSB's. This problem is very real. If you have experienced a problem with your crank angle sensor on your 2G, turbo, then you should be aware that the problem may lay with the crankshaft "walking". On a related note, I and several readers have always been confused when someone with a 1G says we all have one all inclusive sensor that reads camshaft angle as well as crankshaft angle, and that sensor is located on the passsenger side of the intake camshaft. This is indeed the case with 90-94 DSM's. However, 95-98 turbo DSM's have two separate sensors: one to read cam angle, located on the driver's side of the intake camshaft for the 95-96 models and located on the passenger side of the intake camshaft (same as 1G) for 97 and maybe 98? (not sure about 98'), and one to read crankshaft angle. 2G turbo DSMs have a completely separate crankshaft angle sensor located adjacent to the crankshaft sprocket reading its signal via a "trigger plate" or a "back plate" depending on which shop manual you read. When the crankshaft "walks", it pushes the backplate into the crank sensor causing it to fail (literally, it tears through the sensor). The approximate cost for a new crank angle sensor for a 2G turbo is between $40-$70. The part number for the crank angle sensor for a 2G turbo is MD 300101. If your crank sensor has suddenly failed, the chances that the sensor has done so on its own, with no mechanical factors to effect that failure in the first 60,000 miles, are low. If you have taken apart your car to replace the crank sensor, look to see if there are plastic shavings on the trigger plate, where the plate has actually contacted the sensor itself. To replace the sensor alone is a short term fix, if your crankshaft is walking. Getting to the crank sensor is a lengthy process since the timing belt and all else has to come off. You might even use the opportunity to change your timing belt. With regard to warranties. As I have come to understand the meaning of "TSB", there is no obligation to pay for the failure of a factory component if you have exceeded your powertrain warranty or an extended powertrain warranty that applies. So, if you didn't buy an extended warranty and you are over 60k, and your crankshaft is walking, you'll be replacing the crank, bearings, and sensor on your own nickel. If you are under 60k, find a dealer whose service manager has heard of the problem and is actually WILLING to fix the problem if you have it. If you are doing the work yourself, remember to order the crankshaft first, then read the color marks on the crank to identify which SPECIFIC bearings should be used with that particular crankshaft. There are several iterations of crankshafts, and the color marks identify which specific bearing sizes will fit correctly. Paul Estevez 95 GST -------------------- game over.
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TotalEclipse97 Crankwalk Explained Jul 27 2004, 06:13 PM
xian 1g wortdogg would probally be really good at explaini... Jul 27 2004, 06:28 PM
xian 1g The vfaq's is a great source of information: ... Jul 27 2004, 06:33 PM
TotalEclipse97 thank you very much xian. that helps a whole lot Jul 27 2004, 06:39 PM
90GSX crankwalk theory
another theory, the one i believ... Jul 27 2004, 06:54 PM
natedogg The link that 94laser posted is the real reason be... Jul 27 2004, 07:52 PM
xian 1g thanks for the clarification... i can't believ... Jul 27 2004, 09:01 PM
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