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TotalEclipse97
post Jul 27 2004, 06:13 PM
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I've been hearing about 2g motors getting "crankwalk". what is it? how can i avoid it? can the 2g motor be modded so that this doesn't happen or do i have to swap a 1g? ....haha one more question....why don't the 6bolt 1g's get crankwalk compared to the 2g (what is it 7bolt? or 4?) whatever...help


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xian 1g
post Jul 27 2004, 06:35 PM
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here is an article in the dsmorg.com/archives....


Many have emailed me requesting the technical service bulletin
information regarding the weakening of crankshaft bearings and the
subsequent shift of the crankshaft, as it applies to 1995-1998 turbo 2.0
liter DSMs.

The reason I can't find the TSB in the dealer's records is there has not
yet been a TSB written for this problem. The District service manager
for the southeast said they were in the process of writing the TSB for
the Eclipses and Talons. There is already a TSB in effect for certain
3000GT's, but I'm not sure which models specifically since I breezed
past the information sheets for them looking for DSM TSB's.

This problem is very real. If you have experienced a problem with your
crank angle sensor on your 2G, turbo, then you should be aware that the
problem may lay with the crankshaft "walking".

On a related note, I and several readers have always been confused when
someone with a 1G says we all have one all inclusive sensor that reads
camshaft angle as well as crankshaft angle, and that sensor is located
on the passsenger side of the intake camshaft. This is indeed the case
with 90-94 DSM's. However, 95-98 turbo DSM's have two separate sensors:
one to read cam angle, located on the driver's side of the intake
camshaft for the 95-96 models and located on the passenger side of the
intake camshaft (same as 1G) for 97 and maybe 98? (not sure about 98'),
and one to read crankshaft angle. 2G turbo DSMs have a completely
separate crankshaft angle sensor located adjacent to the crankshaft
sprocket reading its signal via a "trigger plate" or a "back plate"
depending on which shop manual you read.

When the crankshaft "walks", it pushes the backplate into the crank
sensor causing it to fail (literally, it tears through the sensor). The
approximate cost for a new crank angle sensor for a 2G turbo is between
$40-$70. The part number for the crank angle sensor for a 2G turbo is
MD 300101. If your crank sensor has suddenly failed, the chances that
the sensor has done so on its own, with no mechanical factors to effect
that failure in the first 60,000 miles, are low. If you have taken
apart your car to replace the crank sensor, look to see if there are
plastic shavings on the trigger plate, where the plate has actually
contacted the sensor itself. To replace the sensor alone is a short
term fix, if your crankshaft is walking. Getting to the crank sensor is
a lengthy process since the timing belt and all else has to come off.
You might even use the opportunity to change your timing belt.

With regard to warranties. As I have come to understand the meaning of
"TSB", there is no obligation to pay for the failure of a factory
component if you have exceeded your powertrain warranty or an extended
powertrain warranty that applies. So, if you didn't buy an extended
warranty and you are over 60k, and your crankshaft is walking, you'll be
replacing the crank, bearings, and sensor on your own nickel. If you
are under 60k, find a dealer whose service manager has heard of the
problem and is actually WILLING to fix the problem if you have it.

If you are doing the work yourself, remember to order the crankshaft
first, then read the color marks on the crank to identify which SPECIFIC
bearings should be used with that particular crankshaft. There are
several iterations of crankshafts, and the color marks identify which
specific bearing sizes will fit correctly.

Paul Estevez
95 GST


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