Dec 15 2004, 01:07 AM
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I am currently running an EVO III B16g and the stock 450s, uip, GM MAF-T, 3" exhaust, Walbro 255, etc. Well as you may have guessed, I have maxed out the 450s and am now looking for what to upgrade to. The options I'm looking at are 550s and 680s from either FIC or PTE. I'd like to stick with the same turbo for a while, even after a built motor goes in. Now the question is, will I max out the 550s with this turbo (running ~25psi)? I have a friend here at school that has a B16g, FMIC, etc and 550s and is convinced he has maxed them out at ~22psi.
Also, if I were to go with the 6xx injectors, would I need a burned chip to compensate for the idle or would I be able to iron things out with the MAF-T? -------------------- Eric
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Dec 15 2004, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Dec 15 2004, 08:30 AM) all this dsm tuning stuff is so beyond my meager understanding... 720's be ok for a frank3 and a 20g? How much hp can a stock 4g63 bottom end take? You seem to do well enough at tuning these things from results. Here's another way to look at it: Marcus's car with 450's and a 14b put roughly 325hp to the ground. An EVO III 16g on a built motor can push over 400hp to all four tires. Marcus's car was notoriously lean. 550's are only a 22% gain from 450's. There's a 23% max gain in possible horsepower going to an EVO III from Marcus's setup. The fuel pressure regulator would make it just passable to run 550's on a truly maximized Evo III 16g from the numbers I've seen. If you're not looking to absolutely max out the Frank 3, you'll be fine with 720's and a fuel pressure regulator. You should also be fine to max out the 20g on the 720's. The fuel pressure makes a much greater change the larger your injectors get. I have no solid opinion on how much a stock 6-bolt bottom end can take. A stab in the dark says about 500whp on a perfect tune. -------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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lawngsx 550 injectors Dec 15 2004, 01:07 AM
wortdog 680's are perfect for an EVO III 16g, and the ... Dec 15 2004, 01:59 AM
wortdog 680's with a stock fuel pressure and the stock... Dec 15 2004, 02:28 AM
turbohcar Buschur says 400hp, 500hp if you shot peen the rod... Dec 15 2004, 08:22 AM
natedogg With my 650's 80% duty cycle is about the most... Dec 15 2004, 11:15 AM
ncgalant The setup I had was built for 500whp and could hav... Dec 15 2004, 12:25 PM
lawngsx QUOTE The duty cycle is 110% If that helps any
Go... Dec 15 2004, 05:48 PM
awd4kicks Wow! Thanks for using my crude HP for compari... Dec 15 2004, 06:01 PM
wortdog I don't know if 'honored' is quite the... Dec 15 2004, 08:16 PM
JMoushon Interesting how far past 100% idc these cars go. ... Dec 15 2004, 09:19 PM
wortdog Depends on how the duty cycle is measured, if its ... Dec 15 2004, 09:51 PM
awd4kicks QUOTE (wortdog @ Dec 16 2004, 02:16 AM)I don... Dec 15 2004, 10:23 PM
natedogg QUOTE (wortdog @ Dec 15 2004, 09:51 PM)I have... Dec 16 2004, 08:21 AM
lawngsx Anyone have an answer for this? Can I max out 550s... Dec 16 2004, 02:35 PM
xian 1g QUOTE 550's will work fine combined with a hig... Dec 16 2004, 02:58 PM
wortdog There are a couple of people on DSMTuners that hav... Dec 16 2004, 03:01 PM
lawngsx That's what I was looking for, thanks guys Dec 16 2004, 04:24 PM
awd4kicks Lawn...it sounds close.
With that info I know tha... Dec 16 2004, 04:33 PM
JMoushon To me, a bigger benefit that fuel cut control is t... Dec 16 2004, 05:27 PM
lawngsx Sounds good. The next step is, with 680s am I goin... Dec 16 2004, 06:20 PM
awd4kicks With bigger injectors and fuel control you get mor... Dec 16 2004, 10:31 PM
natedogg QUOTE (lawngsx @ Dec 16 2004, 06:20 PM)Sounds... Dec 17 2004, 08:13 AM![]() ![]() |
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