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JMoushon
post May 2 2005, 06:45 PM
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OK, so nearly 4 months have passed since I signed on with KOU Motorsports, and much has changed with the car. Some would assert that with a sponsor and 4 months' time, we should have built a monster, but allow me to lay out our objectives.

When Travis abd I first set out on this adventure, we had a simple goal. Run 12s consistently in a street-driven FWD DSM. Sounds simple, doesn't it? Well, enter the facts and we'll see how things look...

Firstly, I live 100 miles from the shop. With the seemingly omnipresent construction on I-74, this is about a 2 hour trip each way. Next, I work as a tech full-time at Saturn of Peoria. Lets also add that for the last few months, I have been making the trip out to KOU for work. Not on my car, on customer's cars.

So, in the past 4 months, we have had roughly three days time to work on the FWD.

It started as a 14b/smic/450 car. Then it changed. First came the MAF-T, 660s, and Wort E-PROM. Not a bad bit of mods, and driveability with the new ECU was drastically improved. Then we got a wild hair to try out a big turbo. In goes the Frank3. Well, that lasted all of about 12 hours, out it came. A bit too much for the type of driving I like to do. I guess I am spoiled by higher than normal compression and a small turbo, but I despise lag. In retrospect, it wasn't that bad, but the big turbo went against our original goals, so it was retired. Back to the venerable 14b we all know and love. A few more weeks go by, and we decide, on a whim, that maybe a 2g i/c, with it's bigger inlets and outlets, would be good for our relatively mild set-up. It works great, for about 1/4 mile. The flow increase is apparent, but unfortunately so is the lower volume of the unit. Time to put a band-aid on the band-aid. An hour later, we have routed 2 OEM washer nozzles into the bumper, spraying onto the face of the i/c. Note: Although the spray does not doo much during a run, heat soak recovery time dropped from 15+ minutes to about 3 minutes, for what it's worth. I run that for about a week, and Travis and I decide enough is enough... If you're gonna see how quick you can be on a 14b, why not just use the right parts? Enter the Air/Water intercooler. A beautiful piece. Hand fabricated aluminum, 3 gallon sump, the whole shebang. 3" in/out, awesome. With some help from Travis and Wort, it goes in without a hitch. Response has clearly improved, lag is nearly non-existent. Which brings us to the current day... The i/c is great, albeit currently it is functioning more like an interheater, as the pump is not yet functioning. Run an A/W i/c empty, and you may as well not even have an intercooler. I picked up the necessary fittings, hoses, and a switch today, and will have it all plumbed up by the weekend, if all goes well.

We are by no means done, but with all the supporting mods in place, we should be ready to see how far a 14b can be taken. There is still more weight to lose, and we may have some other tricks still up our collective sleeves, but it's very close. In this, we will also see how fast a 14b car can go on the stock clutch. Scary, and I'm certain when I start leaning on it it will go, but it'll be fun to see.

To this day, the set-up is roughly as follows:

14b, ported to within an inch of death
Air to Water intercooler with full 2.5" piping (KOU)
MAF-T with 3" MAF (blow-thru)
KOU chipped EPROM by Eric Wort
Denso 660s
Walbro GSS342 255 hf/hp
Apexi S-AFC2
Kris144 Intake
3" TBE, side-exit
Ported o2 housing
KOU ported 2G manifold (beautiful)
KOU stainless clutch line
KOU shifter bushings
Ball/Spring MBC
Nitto NT555R DR's
Front: KYB GR2/Eibach Pro-kit
Rear: KYB AGX/Intrax
AWD halfshafts

That covers most of the general set-up. There is more, check the garage for everything. It looks to be a promising year, I'm sure we'll get tired of te 14b by mid-year, and who knows what will happen!


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post May 9 2005, 09:42 AM
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I agree. Even with a near perfect heat exchanger, on a 90 degree day the water is never going to get below 90 degrees (most likely even hotter) assuming no ice or other chilled substance. This assumes there is always air running across it as well. With no air running across it the heat exchanger will be far less efficient. Not that it would be any less efficient than an a2a. I'm just thinking out loud.

If you guys are planning on using a pump and a heat exchanger, have you given thought to water flow through the IC fins. Cavitation would be unforunate.

If you wanted to get really fancy with it you could even make it thermostatically controlled. Help keep the water in the heat exchanger longer for better efficiency.
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- JMoushon   KOU Motorsports FWD Update   May 2 2005, 06:45 PM
- - JMoushon   And Spy, you better put bigger nozzles in that Fir...   May 2 2005, 06:47 PM
- - awd4kicks   Good luck...KOU boys! It's nice to see so...   May 2 2005, 07:17 PM
- - xian 1g   needs less sound dampener.   May 2 2005, 08:00 PM
- - Rizzo   keep those mods coming, James   May 2 2005, 08:11 PM
- - JMoushon   QUOTE (xian 1g @ May 2 2005, 08:00 PM)needs l...   May 2 2005, 09:04 PM
- - mitsu90   you need to put some of those mods on the mighty m...   May 2 2005, 09:07 PM
- - JMoushon   QUOTE (Rizzo @ May 2 2005, 08:11 PM)keep thos...   May 2 2005, 09:19 PM
- - mitsu90   you want slicks?? ebay   May 2 2005, 09:24 PM
- - xian 1g   get the car and the solvent to me. it'll be s...   May 2 2005, 09:43 PM
- - NOMIEZVR4   what do you guys expect to trap at? My FWD ran a ...   May 2 2005, 10:17 PM
- - xian 1g   i expect to trap him in the ass when his girl ain...   May 3 2005, 12:09 AM
- - JMoushon   QUOTE (NOMIEZVR4 @ May 2 2005, 10:17 PM)what ...   May 3 2005, 06:01 AM
- - badbu68   have fun with my old a2w setup, the pressure drop ...   May 3 2005, 08:23 AM
- - eclipgst   Hey moushon, good to see everything is coming alon...   May 4 2005, 12:22 PM
- - eclipgst   This is so true spy.   May 4 2005, 02:22 PM
- - JMoushon   14b makes it difficult, without a (non-factory) po...   May 5 2005, 12:02 AM
- - JMoushon   Tuning is such a vicious cycle. You get it tuned,...   May 7 2005, 01:25 PM
- - badbu68   You need a heat exchanger for the a2w to work corr...   May 7 2005, 10:12 PM
- - JMoushon   Exactly what I was saying, but put far in far more...   May 8 2005, 01:15 AM
- - KOU In3   QUOTE (badbu68 @ May 8 2005, 04:12 AM)You nee...   May 8 2005, 04:39 PM
- - natedogg   QUOTE (JMoushon @ May 7 2005, 01:25 PM)We hav...   May 8 2005, 04:46 PM
- - natedogg   QUOTE (KOU In3 @ May 8 2005, 04:39 PM)QUOTE (...   May 8 2005, 04:49 PM
- - KOU In3   It's looking like the AC condensor can be modi...   May 8 2005, 05:11 PM
- - badbu68   I don't trust magazine reports very much but i...   May 8 2005, 10:40 PM
- - awd4kicks   This may be obvious but I haven't seen it stat...   May 9 2005, 09:18 AM
- - natedogg   I agree. Even with a near perfect heat exchanger,...   May 9 2005, 09:42 AM
- - KOU In3   QUOTE (natedogg @ May 9 2005, 03:42 PM)...   May 9 2005, 05:17 PM
- - KOU In3   QUOTE (natedogg @ May 9 2005, 03:42 PM)If you...   May 9 2005, 05:25 PM
- - JMoushon   Thank you Travis for making that clarification. I...   May 9 2005, 06:52 PM
- - The Iron Goat   QUOTE (KOU In3 @ May 8 2005, 05:11 PM)It...   May 9 2005, 07:03 PM
- - KOU In3   QUOTE (The Iron Goat @ May 10 2005, 01:03 AM)...   May 9 2005, 08:34 PM
- - wortdog   QUOTE (KOU In3 @ May 9 2005, 11:17 PM)My unde...   May 9 2005, 09:27 PM
- - The Iron Goat   QUOTE (KOU In3 @ May 9 2005, 08:34 PM)QUOTE (...   May 9 2005, 09:45 PM
- - KOU In3   QUOTE (wortdog @ May 10 2005, 03:27 AM)You ar...   May 9 2005, 11:58 PM
- - natedogg   QUOTE (KOU In3 @ May 9 2005, 05:25 PM)QUOTE (...   May 10 2005, 09:56 AM
- - JMoushon   Update. Went out to KOU last Friday, did some re...   May 15 2005, 01:24 PM
- - xian 1g   swap the the clutch, get rid of the weight, no mor...   May 15 2005, 01:35 PM
- - JMoushon   Why do I speak? Nice sig, Christian..... Me...   May 15 2005, 02:58 PM
- - badbu68   Have you got a heat exchanger yet? I'd either...   May 15 2005, 10:34 PM
- - JMoushon   Not yet, probably going to go with a motorcycle ra...   May 15 2005, 10:38 PM
- - haunter   QUOTE (JMoushon @ May 15 2005, 02:58 PM)Nice ...   May 16 2005, 09:05 AM
- - ncgalant   I was just thinking about the A/C idea. Air to wa...   May 16 2005, 11:26 AM
- - wortdog   Not actually using the A/C system, just using the ...   May 16 2005, 01:13 PM


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