Dec 15 2005, 07:59 PM
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![]() DSMCentral Freak Group: Tech Moderators Posts: 388 Joined: 19-September 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 11 |
I am trying to get a little better understanding of turbos. I understand the concept of how they operate and all but I was curious about this.
Alot of people go with the saying bigger is better, but is that always true. For this discussion I will just use generic terms to avoid the differences in manufacturers. We have turbo A (small turbo) and turbo B (big turbo). For the sake of keeping all things equal lets say that both turbos are efficient to at least 15psi, and in this scenerio we are only going to be running at 15. Not here is where I am trying to fully understand. Is 15 psi the same 15psi for both of them in which case the smaller turbo would be better because it would spool faster therefore reaping is benefits sooner, or since generally speaking a larger turbo is capable of running higher boost pressures more efficiently the air charge would be cooler than the smaller turbo (since it would be nearing it's peak efficiency and therefore be heating the air more) and therefore more dense in effect pushing more air at that same level of 15psi. I hope you know what I am attempting to say. I never claimed to be a physics genius or anything but just close to genius on an IQ level -------------------- Brian J
1996 Talon TSI AWD Great indeed is the power of the dragon as the sun, yet humbly and slowly it meanders its way shy, minuscule indeed is the power of the tiny scorpion, yet it swaggers its tail and boasts to the sky. |
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Dec 16 2005, 04:32 AM
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As an example, in the Buick world there is a range of 3 turbos that all use the same compressor housing and wheel, the TE44, PT51, and PT53. The TE44 using a T350 70-trim exhaust wheel is rated at around 580hp at the crank, while the TE53 uses a slightly larger T04B 69-trim exhaust wheel and is rated at over 610hp at the crank.
There's also a TE60 turbo, which shares the same exhaust wheel as the TE44, but has a larger compressor wheel. Most vendors rate them at exactly the same power level. -------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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scorp28 Turbo questions Dec 15 2005, 07:59 PM
AWD DSM 1 Depends on what you want to do with your car....
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scorp28 So then if you take a car and put turbo A on it at... Dec 15 2005, 08:31 PM
turbohcar As Rob said and I will reiterate, turbo B at 15psi... Dec 15 2005, 08:33 PM
scorp28 I heard that (so to speak ) but explain why Dec 15 2005, 08:42 PM
akamiami you guys should leave psi out of the discussion an... Dec 15 2005, 08:56 PM
turbohcar Good analogy Kris. Dec 15 2005, 09:06 PM
scorp28 The reason I included psi was because at a given p... Dec 15 2005, 09:11 PM
turbohcar Not exactly the right way to think about it. Back... Dec 15 2005, 09:24 PM
black92_tsi_awd QUOTE (scorp28 @ Dec 15 2005, 09:11 PM)The re... Dec 15 2005, 09:40 PM
awd4kicks Just try it Scorp. It's astonishing feeling t... Dec 15 2005, 10:12 PM
scorp28 OK understood. I was looking at it from a closed p... Dec 15 2005, 10:29 PM
akamiami I wasn't able to type up a really good respons... Dec 15 2005, 11:52 PM
wortdog QUOTE (akamiami @ Dec 16 2005, 05:52 AM)The t... Dec 16 2005, 04:14 AM
scorp28 Great info guys........thanks Dec 16 2005, 08:34 PM![]() ![]() |
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