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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 ![]() |
ok, so some of you know that I attend school at UTI in Glendale heights, IL... well anyway, for the past 2 and a half weeks I have been in coarse 3 (street legal power and performance). even though we focus on street legal, we also get into N2O.
the car that my group has been working on is a '97 GST with stock internals, 2 and a half inch mandrel bent exhaust with a stock cat (street legal) a stock turbo with a boost controller and tuned with an SAFC II. also mounted on this car is a Nitrous works wet N2O system. over the coarse we have base line dyno'd, and tuned individual components to see what accually works and what doesn't. all of this was on 12 LBS boost and a stock BOV base line we pulled 154 HP at the wheels and 165 torque. with a K&N drop in, we accually lost 2 HP and lost 3 torque with a K&N bolt on replacement filter (takes the place of the stock air box), we picked up the pace quite a bit 167 HP and 172 torque at the wheels. with the exhaust we didn't do a damn thing to either numbers above the K&N Now here's the fun part N2O time: today we were able to use N2O. we set everything up, built the pressure in the tank to 900 PSI and checked the spray patterns in the fogger. we noticed the the last people to use the car had crushed the jets, so we attained new ones from the instructor. the jets we pulled out were .024" (fuel) and .052" (N2O) the jets he gave us wer .024" fuel and .055" N2O we asked about the change and he said that we didn;t have anymore .052 jets, so we just get a little extra N2O flow. now on the dyno: 1st pass, all mods combo'd without N2O, 176 hp, 178 torque 2nd pass, all mods combo'd N2O armed (WOT switched) starting my pull at 2,000 RPM I started to see large quantities of smoke at 3,000, I backed out of the pull, the instructor was sure it was just tire smoke, so he gave me the go to pull again. this time as I hit 3,000 rpm, the engine backfired, WOT with N2O spraying hard. the increase in manifold pressure exploded the BOV..... DAMN!!!!! first thing I thought was blown up engine because of the explosion, fire and smoke that I saw, not to mention now with an engine that died instantly upon explosion. turns out that I don't think it is as bad as I originally thought, at least till we tear into it and find out if we destroyed anything internally. really bad news... turns out that the .052" N2O jets that were in the car were the wrong ones to begin with... it was supposed to be .038"!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW, looking at the dyno sheet, my power lines were headed straight vertical at 2500 RPM and crashing at the bottom at 3000 RPM (backfire point). at 3000 RPM I had 190 HP showing and it was going up in a hurry... damn that was a big N2O shot. just though I would share my one and so far only experience with laughing gas. -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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DSMCentral Godfather ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 ![]() |
Wow... I'm surprised that the teacher didn't know better. (Maybe he didn't have the time)
I'm not an N2O expert by any means, but I have learned there are set combinations that each Nitrous supplier comes up with to reach particular levels of power with their kits. A 55 jet on the nitrous may equate to some realistic shot such as 100HP or something, but it has to have the right amount of fuel to burn properly and keep it safe. For instance if you say a 38 jet is good for 50HP then you were only giving enough fuel for a little more than half of the nitrous he set you up with. Also I understand these are mule test cars so it doesn't matter. But if they are going to allow a cat back in the mix as street legal (Which it technically is not in Illinois) then he might as well let you put on a race cat. That stock cat is a rediculous bottle-neck! BTW - I've found out that you can have a nitrous back-fire without destroying the engine. I don't know if that holds true when the jetting is so nitrous biased though. Good learning experiences anyway. Definitely sounds like fun and even better that it's not your car! ![]() -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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