Bearings Options

[natedogg]

On DSM's, one doesn't have to block the rear bearing for the rear shaft(the one thats attached to the oil pump). That bearing is fed oil from the balance shaft itself instead of from an oil gallery, which is one of the many reasons it tends to fail.

This is also why you can't just cut the rear (yes its called the rear) balance shaft down to a stub and use that. You need the stub shaft from the Mirage or eliminator kit.

[ranta18]

Why not? Why not just plug the oil hole in the end of the cut balance shaft? Either weld it shut or plug it.

[natedogg]

Because if you don't cut it and plug it perfectly, you will get extra vibrations on the oil pump sprocket which could either lead to oil pump failure or timing belt problems. It has happened in the past with guys trying the same thing you are suggesting. It has even rarely happened to guys with uneven casting flaws on the eliminator kit stub shaft according to guys on dsmtalk. You're free to believe what you want though. I'm just relaying info that I've learned in the past. I paid a whopping 20 bucks for my eliminator kit when I rebuilt my engine, and haven't had any problems. 20 bucks seems like affordable insurance considering the consequences.

I don't get it. In one thread you have a problem with the Blaha mod because its free and "unreliable". In this thread you have a problem with the conventional eliminator kit for basicly the opposite reasons. It costs money and is conventional even though its cheap and has been proven to work in the past. If I didn't know better, I'd just say you were a typical Honda guy thriving on conflict.

[ranta18]

LOL.... The two mods are of a completly different idea. One just removes a useless part and the other "tricks" another part into thinking something else and from what some people say, might not be the best thing, so its debateable. Honestly, I'm not trying to start anything with you DSM guys. In this thread I was just trying to get an explaination and learn why not to just cut it. You have done so, and I thank you.

I see what you're saying about it not being perfectly balanced and the fact that its connected to the oil pump housing. I might just tell him to buy the stubby piece if its only $20.

Sometimes asking why is a better way to learn than just going along with what everyone else says.

[natedogg]

I hear ya and agree. I was just giving you a hard time. I think you know that, though.

[awd4kicks]

Where did you find the eliminator for $20 Nate. I would like to get it for that price as well. The last one I purchased was for like $45 or so.

[natedogg]

Its been quite a while since I bought that, but I'm pretty sure I bought the kit from a guy selling them on ebay. As far as vendor pricing goes, I imagine turbotrix probably sells them for the cheapest, but that's just a guess. I've noticed vendor prices have been going up for everything DSM these days.

[ranta18]

My buddy ordered the $40 one and it should be here soon. Thanks.