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turbohcar
post Mar 1 2005, 08:37 PM
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For those of you that are concerned with the "going fast" department I thought I'd post some useful information for those that haven't seen it yet. I took this from DSMtuners.com. The site is: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127313


A/C:
Full System, 90 TSi AWD: 35lbs
Full System, 99 GSX: 42lbs



Cooling System:
1G Stock metal radiator fan: 6lbs
1G Stock plastic radiator fan: 5lbs



Carpeting, sound deadening material, etc:
Sound Deadening Material Inside Car: 25lbs
Spare tire cover + privacy cover: 20lbs
1G rug in rear hatch: 2.5lbs
Each floor mat: 3lbs



Tools, etc:
Spare Tire and Jack: 35lbs
1G Stock tool bag and tools: 2lbs



Under hood, hood itself:
Hood, 1G Hood: 44lbs
Hood, 2G Hood: 42lbs
LS1 MAF With MAF Ends: 1.5lbs
Charcoal Canister, 90 DSM Turbo: 3lbs
Fog Lights: 5lbs
Stock 2G battery: 42lbs
Oddessy Battery: 14lbs
Crankshaft: 6 bolt stock crank 35.5lbs
Cruise Control: 90 DSM Turbo With brackets and bolts and lines 6lbs
Various Brackets: Firewall brackets, Intake, air can, heat shields etc 10lbs
1G rubber intake with BOV return hose (from turbo to MAS): 3lbs
1G starter: 8lbs
1G Intake Manifold, With EGR Block off plate: 10.5lbs
1G intake manifold with ALL sensors/ICS motor + support bracket + throttle body: 23 lbs



Drivetrain
1G AWD Transmission, Complete: 125lbs
1G FWD Transmission: 85lbs
DSM 7 Bolt Flywhee, unlightened: 19lbs
DSM 7 Bolt Flywheel, lightened: 14lbs
ACT 2600 Clutch Disc: 3lbs
ACT 2600 Pressure Plate: 10.5lbs



Exhaust/turbo related:
APEXi N1 Silencer: 0.5lbs
Tial 40mm wastegate, With Metal o-ring: 1.5lbs
2G AWD Catback, No muffler: 17.5lbs
2G AWD Catback, Full Catback with Muffler: 37lbs
2G AWD Muffler 19.5lbs
16G turbine housing, ported (made few years back or less time ago): 9lbs
1G 14b original turbine housing, unported: 11 lbs
Evo III exhaust manifold, ported: 12 lbs
Evo III o2 housing, unported: 6.5lbs
1G original o2 housing, unported: 6lbs
1G original exhaust manifold, unported: 10lbs
14b turbo, only center cartridge with wheels+comp. housing, no turbine housing: 5.5 lbs



Seats, safety belts, etc:
1G OEM Front fabric seat plus slider and belt buckle. No belts: 50lbs
1G OEM Front Seat Belt Assembly: 30lbs
1G OEM Rear Seat Belt Assemblies, Speakers and mounting plates: 18lbs
1G OEM Rear Seats (upper and lower, leather): 40lbs
1G OEM Drivers Seat (Leather Adj lumbar): 50lbs
1G OEM Rear seat bottom: 12lbs
1G OEM Split rear seat back: 18lbs
2g OEM seat, cloth, no power: 43lbs
1G middle rear seatbelt mount: 2.5lbs



Suspension/wheels/steering:
1G Stock Shocks, each: 12lbs
1G AWD KYB AGX rear struts, each: 5lbs
1G KYB AGX front struts, each: 8.5lbs
1G Stock Springs. each: 6lbs
5-spoke wheel, 1996 GS: 20lbs
95-96 Talon Swirl Rims, With 205-55-16 tire: about 42lbs
97 GSX wheels, 17x6.5, no tires, each: 25lbs
90 Laser stock 16" steel wheels w/very bald Sumitomo Srixon-4, 205/55 tires: 45lbs
90 Talon stock 16" aluminum swirl wheels w/70% tread, Goodyear Eagle RS-A 205/55 tires: 42lbs


Electrical, sound, etc:
Stock Radio/CD Player/Amp: 10lbs
DSM Turbo ECU 1.5lbs



Exterior:
1G Bumper, Stock Metal Bumper Rear 32lbs
1G Bumper, Stock Bumper Front 35lbs
1G License Plate w/bracket: 2lbs
Tail light ('90-'91 Talon): 2 lbs
Rear center piece ('90-'91 Talon): 2 lbs
1G ('90-'91) clear pass/flash-through front headlight trim, with bulb and socket: 1.5 lb
1G ('90-'91) corner/side marker, with bulbs and sockets: under 1.5 lb



Interior:
Center storage compartment door: 2 lb
Center console one-piece that surrounds the shiftter: 2 lb
Passenger side dash storage compartment door: 2+ lb
Metal brackets that hold up the wood in rear hatch: 2.5lbs



Misc:
Rear Wiper Assembly: 5lbs
Sunroof, Entire 2G glass sunroof assembly w/screws + brackets: 32lbs

1G Hatch, with glass + center spoiler piece + wiper motor + brackets - COMPLETE: 60lbs
(someone needs to start making these out of CF or FB with glass substitute )

My '90 AWD Talon, with 1-2 gallons of gas, all fluids full + 15-20 lbs of crap in the car, no driver: 3180 lbs

For search purposes:
weight
weigh
weighs
weighed
weighed
weighing
lbs
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turbohcar
post Mar 1 2005, 08:38 PM
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James can attest to the advantage of losing weight for 1/4 mile purposes.


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The Iron Goat
post Mar 1 2005, 09:01 PM
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Very good info!!! Although, I feel as though you've left out some of the essentials.

Interior:
Glowing neon tubes beneath dash: 3lbs
3" 8-ball shift knob: 10lbs
3-ply super black-out tint: 1.2lbs
#1 stunna medalion for rearview: 6lbs
Leopard print seat covers: 3lbs

Audio:
3 Orion Amps: 47lbs
Twin 15" Subs: 38lbs
Sub Boxes: 27lbs
8 one-farad lightning caps: 19lbs

Performance:
Exterior vinyl graphics: 1.1lbs (and 20hp)
Twin nitrous bottles (empty): 16lbs
18" Rims: 40lbs over stock
Gy-normous wing (CF): 17lbs

I think that these "essentials" should be taken into consideration as well. biggthumpup.gif

Seriously, though, that is great info you posted, and very helpful for finding "trouble areas" that need some fat trimmed off.


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thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready...
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post Mar 2 2005, 12:33 AM
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OMG how could I have forgotten about that stuff! lol, and both of us forgot to add in those ginormous 22" DUBS. Those have to weigh at least 50 lbs per wheel.

I thought it would give everyone an idea of just how much every little bit matters when trimming weight.


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post Mar 3 2005, 05:06 PM
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but you guys forgot
lunker behind wheel: 250lbs
10 piece KFC: 7lbs
random cigarette packs and R&B cd's:10 lbs
tool boxes for fixin: 60lbs

so meet jared at subway and trim yourself down while trimming your 1/4 times.
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post Mar 3 2005, 05:38 PM
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nice post.



3 dead hookers... 150lbs.


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post Mar 3 2005, 08:45 PM
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3 dead hookers at 150lbs!!

You either like them REALLY skinny or your hauling them around for a long time!


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post Mar 3 2005, 09:46 PM
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Just as a point of reference, according to my hp calculator...

With a 1.9s 60', and a 300whp tune, a 2800lb car will run 12.5, and a 2400lb car will run an 11.8. This is based on rwd, with no mid-track traction issues. But .7s is a big deal, especially when it can be nearly free.

I ran 13.4 last year, at full street weight. I'm looking to lose around 600lbs, we'll see how that turns out.


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post Mar 11 2005, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Mar 3 2005, 08:45 PM)
3 dead hookers at 150lbs!!

You either like them REALLY skinny or your hauling them around for a long time!

or they're really young...

what?

there goes jim with his crazy calculating skills ... i can attest to those -- he's the smartest kid in the auto retards class eva
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xian 1g
post Mar 15 2005, 11:58 AM
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I only pick the light weight ones, the heavy ones give me bad time slips.


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post Mar 15 2005, 10:45 PM
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touche'
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