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 Oct 23 2005, 06:48 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin.  Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389  |
Here's a picture of one of my launches:
http://www.cordovadrag.com/2005/photos/081205/DSC_0008.JPG I'm currently getting 1.85 60' times, but after seeing this picture I was wondering if the car is squatting too much and possibly losing some forward motion? I know weight transfer is great for a RWD car, but I'm not sure about an AWD. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Oct 23 2005, 07:01 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
It looks to me like you need just a little stiffer suspension on the rear. But you don't want to go to stiff or you will get wheel spin on your take off.
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Oct 24 2005, 08:38 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Wheel spin schmeel spin, put some KYB AGX's on it with some Eibach Pro Kits and you'll be good as gold.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 24 2005, 08:57 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I was looking at KYB's yesterday. Probably the way I'll go next year.
I think I'm going to try some spring rubbers my buddy was running on his Grand Prix. You put 2 in each rear coil to stiffen them up a little. I'll try them at DSM Drag Day if I make it. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Oct 24 2005, 10:27 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Or, if you can find them, air bags. My buddy has a set in the rear springs on his Grand National and they work great. You can really tell a difference when he has them aired up from when they're not.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 24 2005, 03:37 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
They make airbags for strut suspensions??
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Oct 24 2005, 03:47 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
His is not but I can't imagine it being hard.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 24 2005, 06:51 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Oct 24 2005, 04:37 PM) They make airbags for strut suspensions?? yup here is a pic of airstruts 
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Oct 24 2005, 07:09 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
I was actually thinking of a strut/spring with an airbag inside the spring. Kind of like a hot dog with a hole in the middle of it for the shaft to slide through. Then when you go to the track, air up the bags and it stiffens your suspension. If you had the AGX's I suggested though, you can simply turn the knob on the strut body up to the desired stiffness.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 24 2005, 07:22 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Those struts would be for the low riding crowd. Making them stiffer would raise the back of the car. I've seen airbags for spring cars that go inside the spring, not changing the height, just making them stiffer by making the spring harder to compress.
See here: http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00369...036713700005407 Looks like it not available for my car: http://www.importperformance.com/eibach/eagle.html -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Oct 24 2005, 07:43 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Exactly^!
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 24 2005, 07:53 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
I have seen coil over airbags but can't seem to find a pic of them.
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Oct 24 2005, 07:58 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Damn turbohcar, I was researching while you were typing!
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Oct 25 2005, 01:22 AM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 9-July 03 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 151 |
I used the old standby AGX/Pro-kit when I had my DSM, and it worked just fine for my application.
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