 2g upgrade path, which way to go |
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 Feb 10 2006, 04:37 AM
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 Post Master  Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556  |
There are thousands of different ways to upgrade dsms out there. I have a 95 gst and want to run atleast in the 13's and beat up on some street cars. I plan on getting an evo III 16g but was wondering what the best upgrade path to achieve these goals would be?
I was thinking: -evo III 16g turbo -FIC 650's -have 2.5" intercooler piping for sidemount, but will be getting frontmount in near future -have full 3" turbo back exhaust -have aem fuel rail -gm maf and mafT -have apexi safc II -mbc with all this done do you guys think that this goal could be achieved? -------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Feb 10 2006, 07:01 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
What you have should do what you want...don't forget about a clutch.
Here's a generally accepted upgrade plan: http://www.buschurracing.com/dsm-stage1.htm -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Feb 10 2006, 07:12 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
get some sticky rubber
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Feb 10 2006, 09:49 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Its a good start. Like scrapin alluded to, traction is going to be your biggest limiter. Things like sticky tires, stiffer suspension, an LSD, solid motor mounts, equal length half-shafts will help you in with traction on a fwd.
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Feb 10 2006, 11:32 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Shoot, I missed the FWD side of it. I tend to think AWD all the time!
I'd probably upgrade the suspension side of things first if your interested in lower ET's. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Feb 10 2006, 01:22 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
I have a slow boy lsd and the car does have different suspension on it just unsure of the brand. What is a good brand of tires for the traction side of things?
-------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Feb 10 2006, 02:12 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
how do you like the sb lsd?
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Feb 10 2006, 02:18 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
QUOTE (treydawgs4g63T @ Feb 10 2006, 01:22 PM) I have a slow boy lsd and the car does have different suspension on it just unsure of the brand. What is a good brand of tires for the traction side of things? Mickey Thompson Spy has a set of slicks I think he'd be willing to part with. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 10 2006, 04:08 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
If you're looking for something a little more street legal, Nitto makes some decent street stickies.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/s...tition&mf=Nitto |
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Feb 10 2006, 06:19 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
Ive heard good news about the nittos and that was the direction I was planning on taking. The SB Lsd seems to be a good product and I don't have any troubles with it. Although it does keep me from downshifting like I used to.
-------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Feb 10 2006, 10:36 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
keeps you from downshifting???
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Feb 10 2006, 10:49 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
no, not downshifting all together. It wont let you grind into gears or downshift at unecessary rpms. It is really good for going straight to the next gear though. Short shifter helps also. I dont grind gears but just an example.
-------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Feb 10 2006, 11:26 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I know that LSD means limited slip differential right? So is this in the tranny trey? Is it just for the fwd or both? I am just curious like George.
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Feb 11 2006, 11:17 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
yes it is in the tranny. I am pretty sure they make them for both applications also. I think the reason why my tranny blew up a few months back was because the guy who installed the lsd didnt tighen the nut all the way when he installed it. I have no problem with my clutch engaging/disengaging or anything as far as shifting. So from my experience with it so far its well worth it.
-------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Feb 11 2006, 12:10 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
got another ? what would be a better turbo to get since there is only about $250 difference. The evoIII 16g or the bastard 20g? for the little extra money would it be worth it just to get the 20g?
-------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Feb 11 2006, 12:22 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
20g supports more hp but requires more supporting mods and won't spool quite as fast.
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Feb 11 2006, 01:45 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
then in that case I will prolly just spend the extra $200 on some other type of modifications.
-------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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