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 Nov 10 2006, 09:51 PM
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Hey guys whats up? Ok heres what is going on, Nathan helped me tune the car well he did it and i watched but now i am over heating. i think it might be timing. because it is spiking on the logger around 38* timing i put a new T stat in and it helped bring in back down to 247 when it was going up to 265. Any Ideas?? sorry for the hap-hazard.
Thanks Guys Brien 1997 GSX |
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Nov 10 2006, 10:25 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
247* is near catastrophic meltdown. Do a compression test, see if the headgasket is gone.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Nov 11 2006, 08:41 AM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
for real ^^^^^
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Nov 13 2006, 08:35 AM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
At part throttle cruise your timing should be 35-45 degrees. Part throttle acceleration should be 10-25 degrees. 38 is pretty normal when you get out of it. Like they said, check the head gasket. Your timing is still what I would call extremely safe for your boost level.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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Nov 13 2006, 09:27 AM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-August 06 Member No.: 967 |
i looked and watched the fan thats on the driver side its not turning on at all could that be it?
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Nov 13 2006, 10:10 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
The driver side fan only turns on with the AC. If your other fan is turning on you're golden as far as fans go.
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Nov 13 2006, 01:29 PM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-August 06 Member No.: 967 |
How hard is it to do a head gasket i have never done that before and how long does it take.
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Nov 13 2006, 02:11 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Make sure you do a compression test first. You don't want to jump into a headgasket job and then it not be your problem.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Nov 13 2006, 03:09 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Eclipse223 @ Nov 13 2006, 01:29 PM) How hard is it to do a head gasket i have never done that before and how long does it take. If you have to ask, make sure you have some help for your first one. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Nov 13 2006, 07:36 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
i was having overheating issues and it was a tiny pinhole leak on my heater hose.. make sure you go over your hoses...
also you can wire up the ac fan to run at the same time as the other without the ac on. a good idea if you plan on doing any track time |
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Nov 15 2006, 10:28 PM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-August 06 Member No.: 967 |
Ok guys i have looked, there is not a coolant leak. No where, i park the car in my garage on a tarp its been sitting there for the last few days and nothing would drip from it.....
Ok so what do i look for next. The radiator cap the rubber on it has allot of cracks and tears on the seal part. Could that do it. If so why did it just start doing this after tuning. it would not just tear from better tuning would it. None of this happened till we started doing the timing on the car. Why would messing with the timing and the fuel cause it to do this? and how could i fix it ?????? All Ideas r welcomed Thank You Brien |
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Nov 16 2006, 07:00 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Validating Posts: 365 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Mt. Sterling, IL Member No.: 60 |
I would imagine if your cooling system is losing pressure through the cap that could be causing it. I would get a new one and see if that takes care of it. They are only a few bucks if i remember right, so no harm no foul.
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Nov 16 2006, 07:32 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Do a compression test.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Nov 16 2006, 08:17 PM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-August 06 Member No.: 967 |
Comp Test what does that normaly run "$" to have done?
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Nov 17 2006, 12:59 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Tech Moderators Posts: 388 Joined: 19-September 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (Eclipse223 @ Nov 16 2006, 09:17 PM) Comp Test what does that normaly run "$" to have done? Free if you know somebody with a compression gauge. If not you can pick one up at Autozone for about $20.00. -------------------- Brian J
1996 Talon TSI AWD Great indeed is the power of the dragon as the sun, yet humbly and slowly it meanders its way shy, minuscule indeed is the power of the tiny scorpion, yet it swaggers its tail and boasts to the sky. |
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Nov 17 2006, 08:27 AM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-August 06 Member No.: 967 |
How hard r they to do???
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Nov 17 2006, 09:01 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
no harder than changing your spark plugs.
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Nov 17 2006, 09:18 AM
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Nov 17 2006, 12:03 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Nov 17 2006, 09:18 AM) Very good info Black!!! 
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Nov 20 2006, 09:35 PM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-August 06 Member No.: 967 |
Um i Just put went over all the hoses tonight for coolant and did not find any at all then i started it and it started to go up to 230 just by idling so i put the rpms up to 3200 in park. and it went down to 213 and then back to 217 just jumping around there when i gave it some more rpms. Help i dont want to spend alot of money on this guys i just had a baby 2 weeks ago i am just try to get it up and running and sold UGH!!!!
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