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 Dec 5 2006, 09:10 PM
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 Info Seeker  Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552  |
Im lookin into putting a turbo kit on my car and have been looking into turbo kits on ebay was just wondering if anyone had any advice on it anything good or bad appreciate it
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Dec 5 2006, 09:53 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
You might want to explain yourself a bit better than that.
I.E.: What car do you have, how big are you looking to go, and how much money do you want to spend? -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Dec 6 2006, 08:23 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
it would be cheaper to buy a turbo charged car then to turbo an non turbo charged car car.
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Dec 6 2006, 08:32 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Many people on here and other forums have had bad experiences buying ebay turbo kits.
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Dec 6 2006, 01:55 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552 |
i have a 2000 honda civic with a jdm b16a2 not really lookin to run any more then 8-10 psi until after the motor rebuild already did the dsm thing and put too much money into it for it to turn around and blow up on me plus i dont want two projects and i already have too much time in the civic and no one wants to by it so for now im stuck with that and i want to make it faster. anything specific that people have had problems with ? the turbos themselves or the rest of the kit ? its hard to find turbo kits for hondas for under 2gs you can pick one up on ebay for about 900 so thats why i was curious thanks everyone for your input
-------------------- Nitrous is like a hooker, you wanna' hit it but you're scared of the consequences
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Dec 6 2006, 02:23 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
sorry, wrong place to ask about how to turbo a honda.....
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Dec 6 2006, 02:51 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Dec 6 2006, 02:23 PM) sorry, wrong place to ask about how to turbo a honda..... well, im sure we can offer a little help. A motor is a motor for the most part, and turbo kits are pretty much the same also. I have heard that most of the DSM stock turbo setup will work on a honda motor, anyone else heard this? I have also been trying to get him into the dsm scene again but like he said , he is stuck with too much money in a car he cant sell! -------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Dec 6 2006, 03:13 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
QUOTE (treydawgs4g63T @ Dec 6 2006, 02:51 PM) he is stuck with too much money in a car he cant sell! That's the definition of any hot rod! -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Dec 6 2006, 06:23 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
QUOTE (treydawgs4g63T @ Dec 6 2006, 02:51 PM) QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Dec 6 2006, 02:23 PM) sorry, wrong place to ask about how to turbo a honda..... well, im sure we can offer a little help. A motor is a motor for the most part, and turbo kits are pretty much the same also. I have heard that most of the DSM stock turbo setup will work on a honda motor, anyone else heard this? I have also been trying to get him into the dsm scene again but like he said , he is stuck with too much money in a car he cant sell! nooo the t25 and 14b are not what you want for a b-series motor. if you want a turbo honda, trade that in for a d series, then throw all the dsm shit on it. b-series motors are better naturally aspirated. buy type r valvetrain, have the ecu flashed so you can rev to 9,000.. if you have the money, get type r pistons, type r intake manifold.. do some lightening of the chassis, and some stiffening.. and you will have a nice, quick, rev happy daily driver. i understand the desire to turbo it.. but dont do that to a b-series vtec.. maybe if it was a b18a/b or a b20.. but not a b16! if you must turbo it, you can find plenty of info at www.homemadeturbo.com the dsm turbos are too small and will fall on their face. it will be out of its efficiency range. you will run out of boost way before you run out of rpms you at least need a 16g. which, if you are interested, mine is for sale  when it comes to ebay.. think logically.. those kits are cheap for a reason. the honda kits that are in the $2000 range are that high because they use quality parts.. if you consider it, it isnt too bad.. the turbo itself is prly close to half the price of the kit, then the price of a fmic, manifold, bov.. doesnt sound to awful to me. the turbo i ordered for this guys car i am building was $1200..then $600 for the tubular manifold and external wastegate.. |
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Dec 6 2006, 07:39 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Bloomington Member No.: 233 |
DSM>Honda>Ebay....any questions?
Why waste time and money with Front wheel drive? -------------------- Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! AND WASH THAT THING OFF BEFORE YOU COME BACK!!! GROSS
FP 3065, Ported 2G exahust manifold, AEM EMS, 3" 02 housing, Shepard Racing Stage 3 tranny, Fadinza 8 LB. flywheel, Exedy stage 2 tripple puck thick ceramic cluch, 08 from the tank to filter, -6 to rail from filter, Aeromotive FPR 1:1 riseing rate, Crower Stage 4's. All of that and I don't know what I want to do next. |
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Dec 6 2006, 09:16 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Schaumburg, IL Member No.: 430 |
i can sell you a turbo, turbo manifold and a Precision FMIC for a honda b series for $500 right now. PM me or email me for pics and or more info
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Dec 6 2006, 11:56 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552 |
ok heres the thing i knew that i was gonna catch a bunch of shit when i asked about a honda on here but im from central illinois so i have a couple of buddies that use this site plus who would know better then someone with a dsm about turbo questions as for the whole flash the ecu and everything the ecu was sent to jet it already has an 8900 rev limiter and the vtec is set to 3500 rpms also i have aebs intake manifold but its still needs more to satify what im after i appreciate all the advice even if there is some honda bashing in there hey it could be worse thanks again
-------------------- Nitrous is like a hooker, you wanna' hit it but you're scared of the consequences
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Dec 7 2006, 12:14 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
where is honda bashing? i wont do that. i love honda's.
you just need to wake the car up. get type r cams. i hope you are not revving that high on stock valvetrain. also keep in mind that the compression ratio is 10.4:1 you need to lower the compression ratio or seriously tune it. |
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Dec 7 2006, 08:55 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
We're not here to bash your platform of choice. Feel free to ask your questions as we have many knowledgeable people on here that know quite a bit about turbocharging. We even have a few people like Scrapin peppered on here that know about modifying Hondas.
I myself don't have a lot of experience with turbocharging Hondas, but I've heard you can run a 14b on a d-series with pretty good results as long as you aren't looking for much more than 10 psi out of it. Its no super drag car by any means, but a good inexpensive way to get some extra pep out of your daily driver if that's what you are looking for. |
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Dec 7 2006, 01:35 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552 |
the rev limiter is set that high but the shift light is set at 8100 so even when im beating on it it still doesnt ever see 8900 new valves are in the works and lower compression with lower compression pistons prolly like 8.5 to 1 im not quite sure yet i was thinkin get a turbo kit run 8 to 10 pounds then if and when the motor goes ill rebuild the motor to run higher boost thanks again
-------------------- Nitrous is like a hooker, you wanna' hit it but you're scared of the consequences
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Dec 7 2006, 04:31 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
well if you decide to run a 14b on the car, you will only be able to run about 6psi, and boost will fall off before 7000rpm.
what ya might consider is picking up an ls motor as the compression ratio is 9.2:1 throw the vtec head on. 200hp is pretty easy to attain na on an ls/vtec, so you would see some pretty good power if you turboed it another consideration is the 96-98 b20 motor out of the crv. which has an 8.8:1 those motors can be had for a decent price and would make a killer setup.. then sell your b16 shortblock to make up most of the cost of the replacement motor and then have money to work with that you would have used to lower the compression ratio on the b16.. i still say b16 is best in na form 
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Dec 7 2006, 06:03 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552 |
yea i would really like to throw a b18c5 in it but the cost is crazy really the only reason that i have the jdm b16 is i got it for a steal out of a wrecked del sol i bought the whole car for 600 and it already had the intake chipped ecu exhaust and some other small things done all i had to do was buy si motor mounts si shift linkage and cv shafts so really i put it together for cheap. i already have a nitrous setup i just havent put it on the car yet so i can always play with that but who knows i just know that the car is sitting in illinois so i might as well buy some parts for it because its not even being driven i still like the thought of the long run being a built b16 on about 20 pounds of boost
-------------------- Nitrous is like a hooker, you wanna' hit it but you're scared of the consequences
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Dec 7 2006, 07:16 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 319 |
you could always trade it to me for my gst
if you turbo'd a b18c5, i would have to hunt you down and slap you.. repeatedly.. you just dont do that to a type r motor.. for 20psi, you best be very built! i hope you plan on addressing traction issues you should really just trade it to me.. i have been looking to get into a b16 powered car |
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Dec 7 2006, 07:21 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552 |
only problem with a trade is i still owe a lot of money and have too much in it to let it go for cheap what year gst ?
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Dec 7 2006, 07:22 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Nor Cal Member No.: 552 |
o and i almost forgot if i got a b18c5 i wouldnt be puttin boost at it i would go na
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