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 Nov 27 2003, 11:58 PM
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HONDA KILLER  Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207  |
I recently aquired a 1 gen turbo it doesnt run. im not to sure if its eletrical or engine problem im not familiar with DSM's i used to have a honda but made the switch over.. heres what i have so far spark pluge wire number one is burned off from the spark plug end. Nat was dead when i attached new one i heard noise inside the back panel behind the driver twords the floor. Also under the hood i heard a cicking electrical noise in between the bat and the air intake. other than that i am looking for any info thanks
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Nov 28 2003, 10:26 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
I hate to jump to conclusions but the clicking on the inside under the dash and clicking in the engine bay lead me to think your ECU is probably toasted. You can check this pretty easily by pulling the ECU out from behinf the center console near the inside firewall. When you open the gold box you will probably find a few capacitors have leaked acid on the board and shorted it out. If this is the case there will also be a smell similar to rotten fish from the acid too.
BTW-I would say the spark plug wire being burned off is probably not related unless the ECU has a lot more power than I think it does. Good luck! -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Nov 29 2003, 12:02 AM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207 |
no it doesnt turn over power to accesories only works sometimes
 i checked the ECU and to me it looked to be ok
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Nov 29 2003, 08:54 PM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207 |
It now turns over
 but doesnt start 
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Nov 29 2003, 10:28 PM
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 Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Washington DC Member No.: 197 |
Sounds like the previous owner didn't take care of her. Give her a full tune up. Change your timing belt.
-------------------- Somebody make the pain stop. They won't let me go.
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Dec 1 2003, 02:38 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
I'd go with Spy's compression check first to find out more about what is going on in those cylinderrs but there's always the quick and dirty push start method to get it going and find out if it's firing on all cylinders (assuming you've worked out the spark issues with plugs checked and your burnt wire replaced).
Was it running ok when you got it and developed this problem or did you pick it up as a non-runner? -------------------- |
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Dec 11 2003, 09:21 PM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207 |
New brake through it runs on pure starting fluid i am getting fuel all the way up to the injectors but the injectors arnt spraying at all. compression good timing good any help
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Dec 12 2003, 01:57 PM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (My1Gneeds help @ Dec 11 2003, 09:21 PM) New brake through it runs on pure starting fluid i am getting fuel all the way up to the injectors but the injectors arnt spraying at all. compression good timing good any help This could be similar to the problem Rob was having with one of his cars. Are you getting spark at all? Have you checked the MPI fuse? It could also be the cam/crank angle sensor. |
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Dec 12 2003, 02:42 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
Sorry for the off topic but I've been wondering how Rob ironed his out. Anyone care to fill the out-of-towner in on the details of what it ended up being?
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Dec 12 2003, 02:49 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Logger says.......cam angle sensor. Switched to an extra one that Rob had lying around, put some fresh gas in, set the timing, and away she goes.
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 Dec 13 2003, 08:55 PM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207 |
i was thinking the same nate dog where is mpi relay and i am trying to hunt down an ecu
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Dec 14 2003, 10:35 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I'm a little fuzzy on relay locations but I believe the MPI relay is the one sitting against the firewall right by the battery with a black plastic cover over it.
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 Dec 15 2003, 07:19 PM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207 |
now im startin to think fuel pumps bad any one had experiences with fuel pump going out?
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Dec 16 2003, 12:01 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
I've got a spare stocker you can try if you want to check that theory out.
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Dec 18 2003, 06:33 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 4-February 03 From: IA Member No.: 78 |
no, I believe the MPI relay is near the radio...the MPI fuse is what you're talking about natedogg. I've got both, if you find out that's your problem Needs help.
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Dec 19 2003, 09:24 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
There is a relay in the place where I'm talking about. It just may not be the MPI relay. I know where the MPI fuse is. I pull that sucker every time I check my compression or prime my fuel pump.
I'm not positive, but I think the relay you are talking about is for the fuel pump, because I can still hear it click on and off even when the MPI fuse is pulled. Course with all those pins on that relay there may be more than one function for it. If I can remember, I'll take a look in the Haynes manual when I get home from work. You may be right. |
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Dec 21 2003, 12:02 AM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-November 03 Member No.: 207 |
FUel pump pumps if you atach postive lead to the check terminal to the battery pumps into fuel rail any one have an ECU we could try to see if thats the case before i buy one better yet any one want to stop bye to take a look at it
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