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[resalturbo]

i am pretty sure the 92 is sold and they guy with the 93 says it needs nothing so i am at least gonna look at it. if i like what i see then it is mine, the 92 guy is a dealer and kind of hard to get ahold of. soo do all 7 bolts crank walk or just most or just some?? if i get it how long do i have before it does or might do it. it has 130k on the motor.

[ICGerms]

I think I heard that about half of the 7-bolts walk...but if it hasn't yet @ 130k, chances are that it won't. I'm just going off of what I've heard on this walking issue, so don't flame me too bad if anyone knows otherwise. I had heard that if the engine hasn't walked by around 40k, it probably won't.

[KOU In3]

You're right, it 'might' not walk. But if it were me, I'd start with the right platform. The point of a 1G is the essentially bullet-proof 6bolt IMHO. Take that away and...

Personally I just wouldn't bother with a 7bolt in a 1G.

If you do, I still contend it's worth about half of a 6bolt 1G so I would advise to offer accordindgly.

Don't mean to ruffle any feathers. Just my $0.02

[ICGerms]

soo do all 7 bolts crank walk or just most or just some?? if i get it how long do i have before it does or might do it. it has 130k on the motor.

Point taken (and agreed with), Travis. Just trying to answer his questions.

[AWD DSM 1]

My 95 has 144k on it, and I'm just starting to see signs that it might be walking. Had a buddy with a 93 that walked with around 70k on it, and a 95 with 60k on it that walked. 7-bolt=crankwalk=new motor in the end.....

[resalturbo]

my laser is a 93 so is it the 7 bolt then??? it has 112k on it and had no probs with the motor just the tranny. do you guys think it will crank walk???

[zach]

i believe crankwalk is a result of oil starvation to the thrust bearings, wich happens when there is an obstruction or there is enough wear to lose some pressure.

I like to think that the guys with high miles on their seven bolt, haven been given more time to get rid of it on their own time, rather than haveing to fix it now.

[resalturbo]

well I found a 92 laser fwd five speed turbo with only 97k on the motor and they are asking 2k for it so i can probly get it for 1800 if i try.

[resalturbo]

nevermind i just found out is has a bad turbo and is in need of a head gasket so it needs too much work....-resalturbo-

[Red_06_EvoRS]

According to this site:
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/crankwalktheory.htm
crankwalk only started to show up in 2G and later cars; not on all 7 bolts. They've got pictures of blocks from a 93 and 95 cut in half so they could figure out what was happening to the 95 and later cars that wasn't happening to the 94 and earlier cars. Basically, they believe the oil squirters were changed in 95 and that is what is causing the oil starvation and eventual crankwalk. They easily get stuck in the open position which means that the main bearings get less oil pressure than they should; even at low pressure times like idle.

I'm not saying the 7 bolts are as good as the 6 bolts but that crankwalk isn't a necessarily a sure thing with all 7 bolts.

[AWD DSM 1]

I've personally seen three 93-94 7-bolt blocks that walked... both from the Peoria area. One block, you could actually take your hand and push the crank back and forth like 1/8" or something crazy.

There are lots of theories about crankwalk, but the only real answer to keep it from coming back is a 6-bolt block.

The 93-94's seem to fair better than the 95 and later's, but I still would never buy a car with a 7-bolt without planning on replacing it at any moment.

[KOU In3]

As soon as the gallery is back up I'll post the pics of the three 7bolt blocks I have on hand with gaping holes in them.

The spare six bolt though... no problems.

Not that the six bolt is utterly indestructable, but seeing the pile of scrap iron sitting in your living room is hard to dispute.

[SCCA Stang]

my laser is a 93 so is it the 7 bolt then??? it has 112k on it and had no probs with the motor just the tranny. do you guys think it will crank walk???

you have to check the manufactur date, I am not sure on the exact dates, but the early 93's had the 6 bolt and the late 93's had the 7 bolt

[resalturbo]

i will have to locate the exact date on the laser, is it in the door sill?? well i am gonna go take a look at the talon i found up in batavia on sunday, i hope it is what i want/am looking for,
-resalturbo-

[SCCA Stang]

i will have to locate the exact date on the laser, is it in the door sill??

yes, it is in the door sill

[ICGerms]

Here's another one that would probably be worth looking at down in the St. Louis area, I believe:

http://rothbuilt.com/GatewayDSM/MBoard/tre...ge=9298&forum=3

Joe

[SCCA Stang]

I was about to suggest checking with Gateway DSM, they have so many members and such a highly concentrated population that I figured they would have plenty of DSM's for sale that you could basically tell them what you want and someone's gotta have it (one thing to remember is that "everything that everone has, is for sale for the right price")

[KOU In3]

Here's the seven bolt pic I promised. It's one of triplets:


http://www.dsmcentral.com/gallery/view_pho...as_pictures_020

[AWD DSM 1]

you have to check the manufactur date, I am not sure on the exact dates, but the early 93's had the 6 bolt and the late 93's had the 7 bolt

92 is the switch over year... early 92's have the 6-bolt, late 92's have the 7.

[SCCA Stang]

you have to check the manufactur date, I am not sure on the exact dates, but the early 93's had the 6 bolt and the late 93's had the 7 bolt 

92 is the switch over year... early 92's have the 6-bolt, late 92's have the 7.

thats twice yesterday that I put out bogus info, man I must have been really out of it yesterday, usually my tech info is right on the money