 Evo X vs. STi, Top Gear with another comparison |
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 Dec 15 2008, 10:21 PM
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Click Here for the latest in this timeless clash of the titans. Somewhat surprise ending, but not. Midway through the doughnuts are freakin' awesome!
{for the love of God let this not be a repost} -------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Dec 16 2008, 08:58 AM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
That was a fun watch!
Apparently, they're driving the HKS-modified "FQ-360" Evo X. I found info on it here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drive...rticleId=125124 -------------------- ... she likes bein' forced ...
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Dec 16 2008, 06:55 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
I believe the actual car raced head to head was the FQ-300. And it actually finished slower than the STi. However, it was only about .2 seconds or so slower (at least I think that's what Clarkson mumbled).
I would love if they had the FQ series over here. -------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Dec 16 2008, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (JBone @ Dec 16 2008, 06:55 PM) I believe the actual car raced head to head was the FQ-300. And it actually finished slower than the STi. However, it was only about .2 seconds or so slower (at least I think that's what Clarkson mumbled). I would love if they had the FQ series over here. BR-300, BR-360 -------------------- Need a boost in the pocket book and with your health?
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Dec 16 2008, 09:10 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Wow... I've got to find a large enough piece of asphalt to try those AWD donuts in the Talon. I've got plenty of power, I'm certain.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Dec 16 2008, 10:52 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
to say it very simply. WOW!!!
-------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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Dec 17 2008, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Dec 16 2008, 09:10 PM) Wow... I've got to find a large enough piece of asphalt to try those AWD donuts in the Talon. I've got plenty of power, I'm certain. Let me know what you find. I may have a set of tires that need to go by spring... *Laugh* -------------------- ... she likes bein' forced ...
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Dec 17 2008, 09:33 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
QUOTE (Kazz5 @ Dec 17 2008, 02:55 PM) QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Dec 16 2008, 09:10 PM) Wow... I've got to find a large enough piece of asphalt to try those AWD doughnuts in the Talon. I've got plenty of power, I'm certain. Let me know what you find. I may have a set of tires that need to go by spring... *Laugh* Keep your eyes out. I'd love to work on that little trick! -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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Dec 17 2008, 11:34 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
I think we're going to have to find someone that OWNS a paved spot like that - concrete preferred, of course...
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Dec 17 2008, 11:52 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
If you see one large enough that we don't know the owner of...
I'm sure some folks might go in under the cover of darkness with some cameras and let 'er eat. Obviously time would be a limitation, because there would be no hiding the noise.  I was always of the opinion that concrete was more abrasive, hence harder to slip or skid on (Such as at an auto-cross event). I would have thought asphalt would have been better for donuts. Fill me in... -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Dec 17 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (Kazz5 @ Dec 17 2008, 11:34 AM) I think we're going to have to find someone that OWNS a paved spot like that - concrete preferred, of course... This one is powerful with the force. -------------------- Need a boost in the pocket book and with your health?
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Dec 17 2008, 12:56 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Dec 17 2008, 11:52 AM) If you see one large enough that we don't know the owner of... I'm sure some folks might go in under the cover of darkness with some cameras and let 'er eat. Obviously time would be a limitation, because there would be no hiding the noise. I was always of the opinion that concrete was more abrasive, hence harder to slip or skid on (Such as at an auto-cross event). I would have thought asphalt would have been better for donuts. Fill me in... Well I would assume that asphalt would be best especially if it is fairly fresh. I don't know of a parking lot of asphalt that is big enough without any lightpoles... although a church near me out by Rt 24 (Crossroads) has a big enough parking lot but a few light poles.. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Dec 17 2008, 01:55 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
Concrete (if done well) is generally smooth. Asphalt is slightly pitted usually. I can't say for sure, but as long as you have a hard compound tire, I'd think concrete would be less abrasive
If I remember right several nascar tracks switched to Concrete from Asphalt to counter tire wear problems. (could be wrong) -------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Dec 17 2008, 08:27 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
Concrete is more abrasive, thus more wear.
But it's the man's drifting surface. Heh. -------------------- ... she likes bein' forced ...
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Dec 17 2008, 08:34 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Ahhh...Gotcha!
 
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Dec 17 2008, 11:04 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
For transportation purposes concrete can be more abrasive due to the tining and "dragging" done upon finishing for drainage purposes (Ever hear the humming noise your tires make on the interstate?). However, in a nontransportation application concrete can be finished to a smooth glass finish (garage floor, anyone?). The portland can cover the aggregate and make it this smooth.
Asphalt (bituminous asphalt concrete cement) is simply crushed stones with a certain gradation (dependant upon uses) covered in molten hot asphalt concrete. The smooth paving from a drum roller smashes the stone in the concrete into an interlocking manner. While some racetracks are concrete, several are still bituminous. Indy is bituminous, and so is Gateway in St. Louis, just to name a few off the top of my head. -------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Dec 18 2008, 07:00 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Good point about the smoothness of a garage floor J. That never entered my thoughts, but then I'm looking for an outdoor paved arena, where there is usually some roughness left in the finishing of the concrete.
Asphalt must stick pretty well too, if they use it on the speedways. Do they do this also because it's harder or impossible to make a continuous piece of concrete without joints? So for an outdoor to out door comparison, Asphalt is probably a little more slippery than concrete depending on the age of each one in my mind. Then again, I'll take what I can get.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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Dec 18 2008, 08:28 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
Yeah that's what I was thinking J.
Normal Roadway concrete will generally be more abrasive, as they lay it rough to give you more traction in snow/ice/rain. But concrete in its base can be layed more smooth than asphalt. Run your finger over a new garage floor vs a new asphalt driveway 
-------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Dec 18 2008, 08:43 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
There's always gravel or mud ... heh.
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Dec 18 2008, 10:08 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
I prefer mud
-------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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