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post Aug 9 2004, 10:48 PM
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not even a week after getting my GSX on the road..... trouble strikes again!!!

the transfer case locked up on me two blocks from my place

I can't help but think that I screwed up somewhere when I put it back in, but then again, maybe I didn't... (I hope not)

but never the less, I need to get this fixed quick
what's the deal with the transfer case recall????
how do I persue it????
if it isn't gonna be covered, does anyone have one for sale on the cheap, ie, KOU, anyone else????

help as soon as possable will be appreciated, thanks in advance!!!


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post Aug 9 2004, 10:52 PM
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you have to take the car to the dealership to get the recall done. Your car, as long as it hasn't already been done, will qualify. Go in, give them your VIN and tell them what happened and setup an appointment. All of it's free just as long as it hasn't been done already.


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post Aug 9 2004, 11:04 PM
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according to Spy, it has already been done... so it doesn't qualify even if the replacement is faulty?????


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post Aug 9 2004, 11:07 PM
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Go in, give them your VIN and tell them what happened and setup an appointment.


anyone have a VIN plate from a car that this wasn't done on so that I can "VIN clone" my car.... j/k


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post Aug 10 2004, 03:52 AM
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We have both 22 and 23 spline T-cases in stock here so that is an option if you need. $100

Might want to look at pusuing the 'free' dealer option though just in case.




Oh, and if you need a spare dash or anything some of them here might have the VIN plates still attached. If you picked one up, you might want to transfer your stock VIN plate over to this one so the dealer or someone wasn't inadvertantly confused you know. ph34r.gif


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post Aug 10 2004, 04:57 PM
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ok, new info..... I have accually eleminated the transfer case as my problem..... the car rolls when the clutch padal is pushed in and the it doesn't when the car is in neutral and the clutch is let out.... any new suggestions would be appreciated, thanks


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post Aug 11 2004, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (turbohcar @ Aug 9 2004, 10:52 PM)
...All of it's free just as long as it hasn't been done already.

Nope, that's not true...the actual recall notice is a lifetime thing. You can get it fixed as many times as you need to. This was discussed quite a bit on NABR or DSMTooners, or maybe it's on the vfaq website.


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post Aug 11 2004, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Aug 10 2004, 05:57 PM)
ok, new info..... I have accually eleminated the transfer case as my problem..... the car rolls when the clutch padal is pushed in and the it doesn't when the car is in neutral and the clutch is let out.... any new suggestions would be appreciated, thanks

does it go in gear? when you let the clutch out and its in neutral what happens?


does the car start and run?
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post Aug 11 2004, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (Justincredible @ Aug 11 2004, 11:03 AM)
QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Aug 10 2004, 05:57 PM)
ok, new info..... I have accually eleminated the transfer case as my problem..... the car rolls when the clutch padal is pushed in and the it doesn't when the car is in neutral and the clutch is let out.... any new suggestions would be appreciated, thanks

does it go in gear? when you let the clutch out and its in neutral what happens?


does the car start and run?

when the car is in neutral and you let out of the clutch it wants to bog down and die, it will only go into 3rd gear and 4th gear

and yes it does start and run


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post Aug 11 2004, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (ICGerms @ Aug 11 2004, 10:26 AM)
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Aug 9 2004, 10:52 PM)
...All of it's free just as long as it hasn't been done already.

Nope, that's not true...the actual recall notice is a lifetime thing. You can get it fixed as many times as you need to. This was discussed quite a bit on NABR or DSMTooners, or maybe it's on the vfaq website.

according to the dealership (i called them) they asked for the vin and said that the recall had already been serviced and is no longer valid


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post Aug 11 2004, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Aug 11 2004, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (ICGerms @ Aug 11 2004, 10:26 AM)
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Aug 9 2004, 10:52 PM)
...All of it's free just as long as it hasn't been done already.

Nope, that's not true...the actual recall notice is a lifetime thing. You can get it fixed as many times as you need to. This was discussed quite a bit on NABR or DSMTooners, or maybe it's on the vfaq website.

according to the dealership (i called them) they asked for the vin and said that the recall had already been serviced and is no longer valid

They lied to you. A lot of people had/have been having problems getting even a first recall done, but there's a phone number you can call to get someone on the dealer's ass. I'll try to find that info. It's been a while and a couple of computers ago, but I'll see what I can come up with later tonight.


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post Aug 15 2004, 11:15 AM
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Sorry this took so long. I got it from vfaq.com...

There is nothing wrong with the transfer case - there *is* something wrong with the brass plug in the centre of the transfer case yoke. This plug can leak. If enough lubricant is lost out of the transfer case, it will wear out and lock up. Leakage may cause premature wear on the transfer case even if it does not seize up. The Transfer Case Leak page is a must read on the subject, as are Paul Lyons' definitive posts on the transfer case recall.

There is a safety recall on this problem for all model year AWD DSMs from both Mitsu and Chryco, up to and including mid-1998 models. The wording of the recall is such that:

the dealership will inspect the transfer case yoke to determine if there is a leak or not.
upon evidence of a leak, the dealer will replace the yoke and yoke seal at no charge.
if, in the dealer's opinion, the transfer case has undue wear on it, it will also be replaced at no charge.

***Because of the wording of the recall, transfer cases are not automatically replaced. All the crying and bitching in the world won't change that. However, the transfer case and yoke are warrantied for the life of the car. This is because the recall is a safety recall. Future leaks will be covered under the terms of the recall notice. These terms are not within the discretion of either the dealer or the manufacturer - thus spake the NHTSA, and so mote it be. Do not be afraid to stand up for your rights on this crucial point.***

Many DSMers have been happy with the recall work. However, there have been several reports of owners who have not received satisfactory service from the dealerships performing the recall. The causes include:

no parts available. At one time or other, all the involved parts were reported as backordered.
dealerships not recognizing the transfer case leak for what it is; it is sometimes misdiagnosed as engine oil or U-joint oil.
a DIY repair of the transfer case yoke, which fools the dealer into believing the yoke is not leaking.
dealerships not believing that the transfer case has experienced undue wear as a result of the leak.
Owners who do not get decent service should do the following:
phone the Mitsu/Chryco and NHTSA telephone numbers, listed on your recall notice, to report the difficulty.
Have them intervene on your behalf with the dealer. Dealers and Mitsu/Chryco do not have the power to deny you in this matter. Remember that the NHTSA does not have to guarantee you a replacement t-case!
contact Todd Hayashi regarding your bad experience - he is putting together a list of people who have had problems with the recall. Include your name, your car (year/make/model) and the name and address of the dealership with whom you had problems.
The phone number for Mitsubishi is 1-800-222-0037, for Chrysler it is 1-800-521-2777 (or perhaps 1-800-992-1997). Canadians phone Chrysler Canada at 1-800-465-2001. The NHTSA is at 1-888-327-4236. (Note: Troy Davis reports that one of these numbers may have changed to 1-800-853-1403.)
Mitsubishi owners who have already had the transfer case repaired, either by a dealer or a third party, apparantly have the option to get reimbursed from Mitsu. Details on this are sketchy.


Hope this clarifies the topic for some people,
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post Aug 15 2004, 02:00 PM
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thanks for the info..... good info... i'll check this out for sure


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post Aug 15 2004, 02:02 PM
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if I take the transfer case in as opposed to taking the car in and the dealer removing it, does the recall count a well????


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post Aug 15 2004, 03:59 PM
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the car has to be brought in. the dealership must record the info from the car (vin,mileage) and turn it in to the manufacturer. they have to do this to cover there ass in case the part gets called up to get sent back for inspection.


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post Aug 15 2004, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (SPOOLED91 @ Aug 15 2004, 03:59 PM)
the car has to be brought in. the dealership must record the info from the car (vin,mileage) and turn it in to the manufacturer. they have to do this to cover there ass in case the part gets called up to get sent back for inspection.

then how does this part work?????

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Mitsubishi owners who have already had the transfer case repaired, either by a dealer or a third party, apparantly have the option to get reimbursed from Mitsu. Details on this are sketchy.


this was on the bottom of the post that icgerms posted


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post Aug 16 2004, 03:41 PM
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not sure what you mean by "how does this part work"??

as far as the other thing i've never heard anything about being reinbursed. I think that's why details are scetchy.


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post Aug 16 2004, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (SPOOLED91 @ Aug 16 2004, 03:41 PM)
not sure what you mean by "how does this part work"??

as far as the other thing i've never heard anything about being reinbursed. I think that's why details are scetchy.

I meant, how does the reembursement work....


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post Aug 17 2004, 10:46 AM
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i don't know because i've never heard of that happening.


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post Aug 17 2004, 12:46 PM
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NCGalant, you have a pm


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