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Sep 23 2005, 08:01 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
I was talking to one of the DSM bretheren over here with me and he seems to think that there was a big difference between the 6-bolt short block used in a turbo versus a 6-bolt short block used for N/A....
I can't recall any difference, but have little knowledge of this myself. can someone let me know if there is any difference at all in the blocks??? -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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Sep 23 2005, 08:58 PM
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Web Administrator Yo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 516 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Mackinaw, IL Member No.: 376 |
Knock sensor hole threaded? Seems to me it is there but not tapped. Not sure, just something I read...
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Sep 23 2005, 09:50 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (99Spyder @ Sep 24 2005, 02:58 AM) Knock sensor hole threaded? Seems to me it is there but not tapped. Not sure, just something I read... Correct, but there is a hole near it that is already tapped and works just as well. -------------------- Eric Wort
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Sep 24 2005, 01:08 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
There you go^
Knock sensor is moved over one hole, no oil squirters, and higher compression pistons. That's it. If you go with a set of forged pistons you can weld the squirters shut for more oil pressure. Their main purpose is to cool the stock brittle pistons so you don't need them when you go to the thicker, more durable forged pistons. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Sep 24 2005, 03:00 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
The last thing our engines need is more oil pressure at high RPM (assuming their built correctly that is). Removing the b-shafts and plugging the front b-shaft bearing supply gives all the extra oil pressure you'll ever need. The oil squirters cool forged pistons just as well as the stock pistons which gives extra detonation resistance. Some are of the mind that oil squirters don't help, but I believe every little bit helps. The Mitsu engineers wouldn't have put them there if they didn't have a reason.
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Sep 24 2005, 09:33 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Bloomington Member No.: 233 |
QUOTE (natedogg @ Sep 24 2005, 03:00 PM) The last thing our engines need is more oil pressure at high RPM (assuming their built correctly that is). Removing the b-shafts and plugging the front b-shaft bearing supply gives all the extra oil pressure you'll ever need. The oil squirters cool forged pistons just as well as the stock pistons which gives extra detonation resistance. Some are of the mind that oil squirters don't help, but I believe every little bit helps. The Mitsu engineers wouldn't have put them there if they didn't have a reason. They are junk and do noting but create extra windage aound the rotating assymbly. Forged pistons do not need these stoneage band-aids. And removing the balance shafts dosn't create more oil pressure, this is regulated by a pressure pressure regulater found in the oil filter adapter. -------------------- Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! AND WASH THAT THING OFF BEFORE YOU COME BACK!!! GROSS
FP 3065, Ported 2G exahust manifold, AEM EMS, 3" 02 housing, Shepard Racing Stage 3 tranny, Fadinza 8 LB. flywheel, Exedy stage 2 tripple puck thick ceramic cluch, 08 from the tank to filter, -6 to rail from filter, Aeromotive FPR 1:1 riseing rate, Crower Stage 4's. All of that and I don't know what I want to do next. |
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Sep 24 2005, 09:38 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE (Mitsu 77 @ Sep 24 2005, 09:33 PM) QUOTE (natedogg @ Sep 24 2005, 03:00 PM) The last thing our engines need is more oil pressure at high RPM (assuming their built correctly that is). Removing the b-shafts and plugging the front b-shaft bearing supply gives all the extra oil pressure you'll ever need. The oil squirters cool forged pistons just as well as the stock pistons which gives extra detonation resistance. Some are of the mind that oil squirters don't help, but I believe every little bit helps. The Mitsu engineers wouldn't have put them there if they didn't have a reason. They are junk and do noting but create extra windage aound the rotating assymbly. Forged pistons do not need these stoneage band-aids. And removing the balance shafts dosn't create more oil pressure, this is regulated by a pressure pressure regulater found in the oil filter adapter. isn't the change in oil squirters the main culpret to crank walk in the 7-bolt. -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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Sep 25 2005, 08:43 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (Mitsu 77 @ Sep 24 2005, 09:33 PM) QUOTE (natedogg @ Sep 24 2005, 03:00 PM) The last thing our engines need is more oil pressure at high RPM (assuming their built correctly that is). Removing the b-shafts and plugging the front b-shaft bearing supply gives all the extra oil pressure you'll ever need. The oil squirters cool forged pistons just as well as the stock pistons which gives extra detonation resistance. Some are of the mind that oil squirters don't help, but I believe every little bit helps. The Mitsu engineers wouldn't have put them there if they didn't have a reason. They are junk and do noting but create extra windage aound the rotating assymbly. Forged pistons do not need these stoneage band-aids. And removing the balance shafts dosn't create more oil pressure, this is regulated by a pressure pressure regulater found in the oil filter adapter. Your opinion on the forged pistons. I've proven to myself that the oil pressure goes up by measuring output pressure at the head on an engine with and w/o balance shafts. That oil pressure regulator doesn't flow enough to be worth much. As soon as it bottoms out oil pressure is going rise no matter what because its a direct function of engine RPM and the bottomed out regulator cannot bypass enough flow to keep a consistent pressure in proportion to the increase in engine RPM high HP 4g63T's are capable of, esp in excess of 7K RPM. |
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