question answered, thanks guys

first off, I REALLY hope you have a logger for all of that. Second, you can mount it where ever you want. It should have enough cord to reach to the glove box or up under the dash or where ever you could ever want it. It might be a bit hard to adjust, but it will still work. It does have to be pluged in though. The car will not run for crap with it unplugged.

yeah im looking into getting a logger very soon.. a friend of mine has one for his 1g GSX, any possible way i could bum that to log it while tuning the first few times? i've never really heard of it except through F&F but any data loggers able to run on a laptop?

ohh k never mind, i just read up more on it, soo -- anyone feel like selling their PDA?

and ncgalant, when i asked if i would be able to unplug it when needed, i meant at night or if the parents were going to be around the car, not while running.

u can unplug it, but u have to take the whole casing off and then unplug a tiny wiring harness inside of the control (on the circuit board).. That would become quite a pain in the ass if u ask me... Check out my garage to see where im mounted mine

that looks really cool.. did it come with enough wire to reach up there? how'd you feed the wire down, above the ceiling 'carpet'?

It comes with like 10 feet of wire. Like I said, you can get just about anywhere. I figured you were talking about just for when your parents are around, but wasn't totally sure. In that case, what are you going to do if you ever give them a ride. I would hide it. This also lowers the likelyhood of someone "playing" with it.

run it to the center console. close enough that you can still make adjstments but you can close the lid when you dont need it.

OR scrap the whole idea. get a maf-t and stick that in the engine bay.

I personally agree with Justin. The MAF-T is much easier to hide, and thought by many to be a superior tuning tool. Why go through all the trouble? Everyone should listen to Justin. He's incredible.

great, so i've got a lot more reading to do i never read up on the MAF-T cause i figured i'd just get the S-AFC since i already somewhat know how to use it. right now i've got the injen intake pipe and K&N cone filter.. would that fit on the 3" MAS i'd be needing to get also? i'm guessing you just put the MAF-T somewhere around the fuse box normally?

BWAHAHA. thats right. you should.


heres a quick rundown on the maf-t set up. what the maf-t does is allows you to use a 3" gm mas. Thus, eliminating your 2g mas box. Yes you would need a new filter to fit around the 3"mas. But when you can sell your 2g mas for 75 bucks is pays for itself. The beneft of the maf-t over the S-afc is that you set injector duty cycles according to throttle postion instead of rpm. Essentially you would have Idle, Mid, and WOT. Add all this to the benefit of flowing more air into the turbo and it beats the S-AFC hands down.

Negatives~some will say the Maf-t is to rough around the ends with tuning specifc RPM points. But, with the new version you can adjust in .1 increments. You shoul have no problems with this unless you bought used. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE NEWESET VERSION.

yeah i'll prob end up selling the S-AFCII and doing the MAFt setup. would i also need a new intake pipe to fit around the GM MAS though? bah, already selling my new stuff.. oh well, those dejon pipes aren't too much money, i'll go with one of them if i need to

no. itll go on the end of your current pipe. just like your current mas does.

oh yea, duh thanks for all the help guys

so would you suggest buying a used or new translater (can you simply clear the old data and start over)? there are a few on dsmtrader for pretty cheap

i gotta new question about the pocketloggers.. i can get a palm and cable no problem, but my question's about the software -- the 1g is of course for 90-94, and then under OBDII it says 96+ cars.. still compatible with my 95?

lol why of course he's just incredible.....how else do you think he got COTM?!?!?! j/k

I believe so....that is what we have and used it to tune our 95.....not sure if there was anything special we had to do or not though

ok.. hopefully here's the last stupid question on this thread -- i dont need a pocketlogger to tell me im running rich as hell, i recently gave my car a tune-up, all new fluids, new plugs and plug wires even, and it seems like im running richer and richer (nice black smoke at WOT and a new black rear bumper after a few days ) and everything seems to run just great at the moment. so what are a few things i should check out to lean myself out. i suppose i could really up the boost when i get the 16g on

hmmmm i seem to have the same problem

Thats it. I'm gettin a sticker that says. "this car is Just Incredible" and sticking it on my quarter window. Right above a dsmcentral sticker.

iowa -


from mr. incredible-



iowa-

have you done any of the free mods to get more air flowing in? if not,
vfaq airfilter modification
run 100+ octane race gas in the car it will allow you to handle higher boost levels, which I think should lean out the air/fuel ratio. -someone chime in if i'm wrong here.
if you don't have a boost controller, do the wastegate bypass solenoid mod, it's in section II part 4 waastegate bypass solenoid mod
if you don't know that looks like go to the engine primer.

I'm new here, and stupid, so any information i give you you should probally check out to make sure i don't kill your car. here are some good helpfull usefull nice pretty sexy thoughtfull great wonderfull links to help you in your research.

DSM talk.
Vfaqs, will tell you everything!
another vfaq. (laser vfaq)
buschur racing
road race engineering
team nabr
club dsm
wheel weights
tire fittings
more tire stuff



good luck, and happy readings

i have a 2g so there arent too many air related free mods.. although i did remove the BCS restrictor. other than that, i have a K&N cone filter and injen intake

try painting the rest of your car black is the only solution i can think of.
sorry, too new to be any good for you.

You guys had a pocketlogger? I never knew that...


iowa - You can try turning up the boost to lean it out some, but eventually you'll need some sort of fuel control. Make sure you don't overwork your turbo!!! I think 15-16 psi is about all the stock T-25 can handle efficently. The 16g will be able to put out 20+ psi once you get all your supporting mods in place. You can get a chip for the older versions of the translator to upgrade them I belive. Definately your best bet.

With a 95, you'll almost HAVE to go to pocketlogger.com and get one there. It's kinda expensive, but you're garunteed to get one that works with your car. Plus you get tech support and a warranty. Apparently people have had problems getting some of the other stuff to work on the 2g's in general, and especially the 95's.

Also, if you're running an injen intake, you'll need a different intake pipe to run the GM MAS... I belive the injens are oval to match the 2g MAS, and the GM MAS' are just 3" round. A stock 1g intake pipe will work, or you can see if Kris (akamiami) has any of his 144 intakes still available. (very nice steel intake tube he sells).

i was on pocketlogger.com and the 2gs are under OBDII, but when you click on that, the description says 96+ models, it doesnt say anything specific about the 95s. i might be going with an S-AFC now and just hiding it in the arm rest/console, since im a little short of cash and can find a used S-AFC for 200.

What about the one shipped to your friends house?

after hearing about how great the MAF-t setup is i sold the S-AFC to a friends friend in another county, and i'd be surprised if he'd sell it back leave it up to my dumb ass

Get the Maft... you'll be better in the long run...

meh I picked up my translator and mas for 200 bucks.

You dont NEED the new version of maf-t. Its just a plus. you could EASILY do that for under 200.

why of course he (we, yeah right lol) had one rob......with the endless supply of $$$ what didn't we have....other than a running car lol


(that post was meant to be total bs ....if you couldn't tell or don't know my sense of humor yet lol)

Eclipses were OBDII compliant in '95