jpracer
Nov 16 2005, 11:58 AM
i just put a new clutch a couple of weeks ago in a gsx and have about 1500 miles on it. If i drop the clutch any higher then 6000 rpm it just slips or if i shift into 2nd higher then 6300 rpm it just slips but it doesnt slip any other time. any suggestions.
kapoosh
Nov 16 2005, 12:03 PM
wow do you dsm guys really drop the clutch at 6K?!?!? Seems so unncecessary.
What kind of clutch did you put in there?
Booztd 3
Nov 16 2005, 01:21 PM
try adjusting the clutch pedal......
black92_tsi_awd
Nov 16 2005, 01:47 PM
Did you resurface the flywheel and have it machined to the proper height???
kapoosh
Nov 16 2005, 02:50 PM
QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Nov 16 2005, 01:28 PM)
QUOTE (kapoosh @ Nov 16 2005, 06:03 PM)
wow do you dsm guys really drop the clutch at 6K?!?!? Seems so unncecessary.
What kind of clutch did you put in there?
kicks use to drop the clutch at 8k
Sounds ballsy, probably fun though!
BudmannG
Nov 16 2005, 02:56 PM
I would check to see if your throwout bearing is sliding with ease. I had the same problem and that's what I found.
Dropped the tranny and lubed up the shaft and slid her back in. No problems or compaints out of her yet.
jpracer
Nov 16 2005, 03:34 PM
yes i got the flywheel resurfaced and to the right hieght. Its a 6 puck with a spring hub and i put a new throwout bearing on. i will defininitely not pull the tranny again b/c its awd and is a pain. it isnt doing it so much anymore but im prolly getting a sheppard racing tranny block and head and some other stuff over winter so it should all be good come spring time if thats the case
jpracer
Nov 16 2005, 03:35 PM
we also did grease the shaft when we put the bearing on
AWD DSM 1
Nov 16 2005, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (jpracer @ Nov 16 2005, 04:34 PM)
i will defininitely not pull the tranny again b/c its awd and is a pain.
Shoot, it only takes me about an hour to pull the tranny and about that to put it back in. You should try a 3/s sometime!
Question, why did you put a six puck in it? Very few people really need a six puck. What brand is it? It's a new friction disk and presure plate, right?
Also a side note, unless you plan on really beating the crap out of it, most of us have had very good luck just rebuilding the stocker... seems to get you into the 11's pretty reliably.
keymaster
Nov 16 2005, 10:04 PM
How much would one be looking at for a standard rebuild on the stocker?
AWD DSM 1
Nov 16 2005, 10:08 PM
Slo Pony used to do it for $150 plus parts, don't know if that deal is still good or not. Parts were around $150 for mine back in the day. $300 for a rebuild is a lot easier to swallow than $2k for a shep tranny.
jpracer
Nov 16 2005, 10:20 PM
the tranny is in really good shape i haven't had much trouble with it. and its a f1 racing stage 3 with a heavy duty pressure plate. i was just getting it ready for im gonna do over winter with it so it will hold the power and launches
fastclipse82
Nov 17 2005, 02:26 AM
sounds to me like heat glazing. If it is then give it a couple of weeks of normal driving and itll be fine. ive done it a million times.
AWD DSM 1
Nov 17 2005, 07:44 AM
QUOTE (fastclipse82 @ Nov 17 2005, 03:26 AM)
sounds to me like heat glazing. If it is then give it a couple of weeks of normal driving and itll be fine. ive done it a million times.
If it's too bad though, you may have to pull the clutch and lightly sand off the glazing.
Never heard of that brand. Make sure you give it some good break in time before pushing it too hard, regaurdless.
turbohcar
Nov 17 2005, 08:57 AM
Funny, I'm having the same problem in mine. It smelled like clutch every time I made a pass at Cordova. By the time I drove up to Cordova, it had about 1200 miles of easy driving on it. It doesn't smell during regular driving but if you do a 5-6k launch it sure smells like it. I've got the ACT 2600, street disc, and Fidanza flywheel (all of which were brand new).
black92_tsi_awd
Nov 17 2005, 09:07 AM
turbohcar
Mine ACT did the same thing at SCDC. Darryl explained to me a little clutch smell is normal. If you can get the ACT to slip slightly, the next run it grab like hell. I didn't beleive him but I experienced some pretty hard launches (1.7's 60') after a couple of particularly "stinky" runs.
turbohcar
Nov 17 2005, 09:46 AM
Actually, that same thing happened to me. The first four runs were like teeth wrenching, mind jarring hard clutch engagement feeling launches but didn't yield a 60ft under 2.0. Then that last run it was smooth and powerful at the same time and I had a 1.9 60ft. I'm hoping that was it. I attribute most of my 60ft trouble to the stock 145k blown out struts anyway, but it was wierd getting those slow hard launches and then all the sudden the smooth quick one.
jpracer
Nov 17 2005, 12:11 PM
im not getting any smell from the clutch at all when it does and seems to have gotten a lot better and isnt doing that i can really tell of but i havent tried launching again above 5600 rpm b/c that feels like the best spot to launch at. It spins the tires just enough to not bog out.
fastclipse82
Nov 18 2005, 12:34 AM
Like I said, take it easy, Glazing can happen to any clutch if your hard on it, even a six puck. Once you wear the glazed surface on it then let er rip. and try not to slip it at high rpm's. That'll glaze over a clutch in a heartbeat
turbohcar
Nov 18 2005, 09:30 AM
Well, how do you guys usually let out on the clutch? All at one time or gradually with some ease? When I was at Cordova I held the clutch to the floor until I was ready and released it completely when I left.
natedogg
Nov 18 2005, 09:43 AM
Depends on how hard you want to be on your drivetrain. John Shepard admits that he sacrifices some 60' time by letting the clutch out instead of sidestepping it to save his transmission. I try to do the same thing. Personally, I'd rather sacrifice a tenth or so in the 60' if it means my transmission is going to stay together longer.
black92_tsi_awd
Nov 18 2005, 09:59 AM
I do the same as Nate, I just bring my foot straight up on the clutch. Let's it slip a little but still launches hard. 60 foots are in the 1.7's, that's good enough for me if I don't break any parts.
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