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AWD DSM 1
I'm mainly interested for the vr4, but I figure this is revalent to DSM's also.

Supra TT vs Walbro 255 vs 3000gt vs stock.

I thought I remember seeing some flow charts or something on the different pumps, can't remember where now.

Basically, what's each good up to? Best flow rate?
turbohcar
Good thread AWD DSM 1! I'd be interested in seeing those flow charts too.
AWD DSM 1
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/fuelpumptechtip.htm

Found it.
turbohcar
Ok, the Supra pump is darn near the best flowing pump but, how much is too much for the (Aeromotive) fuel pressure regulator to return to the tank? I don't want to get this thing on and have it overrunning the AFPR. I would like to know where the Walbro 255 lines up with those as well if anybody has any test data on it.
AWD DSM 1
Either of these look like the right supra pump?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
turbohcar
That second one definitely does not look like the correct one (it doesn't look like it to me anyway). The top one looks correct.

Any idea about my question?
black92_tsi_awd
How about Here?
AWD DSM 1
That's some good info too.
ICGerms
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Nov 17 2005, 07:37 PM)
...how much is too much for the (Aeromotive) fuel pressure regulator to return to the tank?...

Wouldn't that depend on your fuel lines, especially the return line? Or am I way off, here?
AWD DSM 1
Anyone know if an AFPR would be a must on a 3/s with a supra fuel pump. I know that most peoplestrongly urge it on the 255 pumps in the DSM's...
turbohcar
I would have to say yes. Being that the Supra pump is a higher volume pump than the Walbro pump, I'd still have to say you need an afpr for it. Don't go the cheap route Rob! It'll only get you in trouble.

BTW, if you need some more cash for this project of yours I may need some more work done in the coming months. rolleyes.gif
AWD DSM 1
uh oh.... what now?
turbohcar
I've got an itchy wallet and the car monkeys are once again humping my back. The transmission is aching for a rebuild and I really don't want to pull it apart by myself again. AND when the time comes to do the rebuild, it's not going back together stock!

That and I really want to find this oil leak. I know the valve cover filter is leaking a bit but, it can't be slinging all this oil into the curve on the intake manifold. Anyway, I'm buying a beater today. It's Dan's favorite color....purple. '96 Pontiac Sunfire 2.4L auto GT with a gagillion miles for $325. It's one that we got in at work through the police auction in town. Needs a fuel pump to run and that's it. So.....that leaves the Talon open for some downtime.
AWD DSM 1
Herrick Autowerks should be re-opening early next year... biggthumpup.gif
ncgalant
you don't even need an afpr

http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132440
turbohcar
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Nov 22 2005, 11:57 AM)
Herrick Autowerks should be re-opening early next year... biggthumpup.gif

Good! That'll give me plenty of time to save more money (or tear more stuff up depending on how you look at it) for more stuff. I.E. suspension, drivetrain, and fuel mods.
AWD DSM 1
QUOTE (ncgalant @ Nov 22 2005, 01:04 PM)

I hate reading... biggrin.gif

So the 3/s cars have a switch for low/high fuel pump voltage from the factory?
turbohcar
Yes but, as it says it's only a type of band-aid.

Rob, I'm serious. Your VR-4 is GOING to run at the track and it's going to cut a 13 second pass. I don't care if I have to fund it myself. This driving around in a Cavalier that says DSM KLR on the liscense plate isn't going to cut it! New house or not there's no excuse with that 3 car garage.
BudmannG
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Nov 22 2005, 01:30 PM)
driving around in a Cavalier that says DSM KLR on the liscense plate

^^ biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif ^^
AWD DSM 1
Thanks Brett.... I think... wacko.gif

FYI, that plate was originally supposed to go on my 96 cobra. tongue.gif
turbohcar
Just trying to help a brother out!
AWD DSM 1
Anyone know the correct part number for the supra pumps? Got a line one one, but the part number doesn't match the others I've seen.

One I'm looking at had a part number of 195130-0172. supposedly came out of a 97 TT supra.

Others I've found have the same number, only ending in -1020

wacko.gif
turbohcar
I called the Toyota dealership yesterday to try and get a deal on one. DiamondStarMotorsport.com has them for $235 and I was going to try and get one cheaper. Dealership says my price is $250! Just call up to your local dealership with the VIN of a TT Supra (I found one doing an Autotrader search) and they'll give you a part number. Sorry, I didn't get one or write down the VIN I used.
ncgalant
Why would you pay that when a high pressure 255 is less than half? Are you looking for more than 500 horses?
turbohcar
Possibly ph34r.gif

I guess my idea is upgrade the fuel pump once and never have to do it again.
AWD DSM 1
I'm looking for a good deal on E-bay personally. Honestly though, it's probably way too big for what I need.... concidering I'm still running stock injectors.
akamiami
then do a dual pump walbro setup. that's what the evo guys are doing. AMS sells a kit that could probably be easily adapted to a dsm, stealth, or whatever vehicle absolutely needs to consume fuel at the fastest possible rate.
turbohcar
What's the advantage of the dual Whalbro pumps? I want to be right at the 500hp mark. By the time you buy two Whalbros ($200) and then the kit ($?) plus the modification time (drop the tank, cutting, engineering degree).
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