QUOTE (akamiami @ Mar 3 2006, 06:52 AM)
well, to drag this back into reality, here's my opinion of a 'street car'.
1. It has to run on pump gas, and I'm talking about straight premium folks, no turbo blue. Xylene additive would be prohibited as well and water/meth injection is pushing the limits quite a bit but if NOS is allowed, I suppose water/meth should be included.
2. It's got to run on street tires. No mickey thompson's DOT cheaters or wrinklewalls. DR's are okay of course, but when it gets to the point of not being able to drive the car in a downpour of rain, then it's not really a street tire IMO. I'm not a big tire expert here as I've never had to seek out tires to give me more straight line traction, but if the rubber has no circumferential grooves then it's questionable. Obviously this would prohibit the tubbed out rwd cars on skinny and slicks from joining in the street car fun.
3. No fiberglass front ends or lexan windows or tube framing, or back halving or extensive chassis modifications like installing a pure drag 4 link or whatever is involved in making a car do 3 foot wheelstands off the line. Carbon fiber or fiberglass replacement body panels like even doors and stuff is exotic but OK. The car should be a doorslammer, even if it has a gutted interior and no amenities like AC, etc. Those are hardships and discomfort that a driver can endure, like having a harsh suspension setup, nasty turbo lag, loud exhaust that drones, or getting poor fuel economy.
Now, I realize that some guys will take the stance that the car shouldn't be gutted and should have a full interior, or maybe no cage, or all oem body panels, but these rules are of course my opinion. To me it's all a matter of what you can drive there, race, and drive home in the same condition. If somebody would be willing to drive their slicked up, fiberglass front end (with or without headlights), race-car running on C12 to a drag strip 50 miles away in a drizzle, then I'd perhaps change my mind about whether their car was a true 'street' car, but I doubt that would happen other than to prove a point.
What do you guys think a Street King should be held to in order to ensure that the 'Street' remains key?
1) I'm begining to think that E85 may start tweaking our idea of what a street car engine is. E85 lets you run a bunch higher compression (up near 13:1 on an NA motor vs. 10.5:1) and/or a heathier amount of boost. E85 may make turbo blue obsolete in some situations if it gains popularity over the next few years.
2) I'm with Andy on this one. Tire limitations weed out the uber-competitive and the incompetent, but the new MT's have been proven to be just as fast as slicks at 'our' level of competition. I'm running low elevens (10's this year?) on 7" DOT street legal tires.... so I'm not real convinced tire limitations make a huge difference (at our level of competition).
3) Not sure where I stand. I've kept my _whole_ interior, right down to the factory stereo/EQ/speakers that don't work. I'm also running a lot of other stock chassis parts (well, pretty much all of them....). But, if I had a liquid cooled check book, i'd be sporting a lot more fiber glass back and forth to work in the summer. Tough place to start making rules, as everyone will have some kind of exception.
All that said.... I'm all for some one making up a list of rules, regardless of what they are, and then we all play nice by those rules. No one's going to be happy with them all!
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