treydawgs4g63T
May 10 2006, 12:17 AM
Ok, I should have went with 550's but i knew that some day I would want to go extreme so I bought 650's a few months back. Im going to install them on my AWD this weekend along with my walbro 255 hp fuel pump and an aem fuel rail. Also new fuel filter. I am currently in the process of looking for a afpr also. what would be a good psi to run on a ported 14b and o2 housing. Also would it be a bad idea if i didnt hook up my translator right away since im still learning how to use it.
any input will be appreciated. Im trying to get it ready for slowpony day and Im sick of looking at all my parts sitting in my room doing nothing.
Thanks,
Travis
AWD DSM 1
May 10 2006, 06:21 AM
You won't be able to run bigger injectors without some way of controling them.
BudmannG
May 10 2006, 07:23 AM
turbohcar has a AFPR for sale.
Now as for hooking up the apexi. I would, just like AWD DSM said you are going to have to have a way to control the air to fuel. Hook it up!
turbohcar
May 10 2006, 07:46 AM
AFPR
Eprom ECU w/ 780cc chip
780cc injectors
255lph HP Walbro pump rewired
GM MAFT w/ intercooler pipes setup
I've got plenty of fuel and tuning parts. Basically all I'm missing is a wideband. LMK
ncgalant
May 10 2006, 12:46 PM
Didn't you say you were going to run a GM translator? If so then that will do fine. With a 14b, 550s will be more than enough. If you run into troubles with to much timing on the 650s, you'll want to turn the fuel pressure down to ~30psi and tune them like 550s. You won't want to go much lower than that though. The spray pattern will start to degrade.
AWD DSM 1
May 10 2006, 01:03 PM
Nate, I think he was asking how much boost he could run (psi). And to me it sounded like he wanted to run the 650's without the translator.
ncgalant
May 10 2006, 02:52 PM
I didn't see the part about not running the translator. That will NOT work at all. You might be able to hack the MAF enough to get it to run in closed loop, but as soon as you went over 40% throttle it would bog under all of the extra fuel.
treydawgs4g63T
May 10 2006, 05:46 PM
im going to run my translator I just said i need to further understand it. My ? was about the boost and fuel pressure settings.
ncgalant
May 11 2006, 10:59 AM
on a 14b, 16-17psi is the most you will want to run if you want the turbo to last. Stock turbo fuel pressure is 38psi. I was suggesting to run 30psi because 650s are a little big for a 14b and might net you to much timing, causing knock. Like I had said before, I'll help you out with the translator tuning if you need to get a baseline.
AWD DSM 1
May 11 2006, 11:19 AM
ncgalant, the tuning god! I know I'll be contacting you once I get my heap running to get everything set up right! What's your going rate?
treydawgs4g63T
May 11 2006, 07:51 PM
ill definetly be giving you a call probably sometime next week.
mitsu90
May 11 2006, 08:18 PM
nate is damn good at tuning i need to get with him again to tune the galant some more
ncgalant
May 12 2006, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ May 11 2006, 11:19 AM)
ncgalant, the tuning god! I know I'll be contacting you once I get my heap running to get everything set up right! What's your going rate?
I don't know about all that

So far my tuning has all been pro bono however you spell it. I'll be more than happy to continue at that rate as long as my financial situation is stable

Anyway, I'm always happy to lend a hand as long as you fit into my schedule. Shoot me a PM. That goes for Mitsu and Trey also
Zmann42087
May 12 2006, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ May 10 2006, 06:21 AM)
You won't be able to run bigger injectors without some way of controling them.
You can control just about any (large) injectors with DSMlink... no size is too big.
AWD DSM 1
May 12 2006, 08:21 PM
My point was that you can't put larger than stock injectors in a car without doing SOMETHING. 650cc injectors in a stock car = way rich.
treydawgs4g63T
May 12 2006, 10:16 PM
well it won't be that stock. And I know what you mean I was getting opinions on psi levels.
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