black92_tsi_awd
Oct 17 2006, 01:42 PM
Alright, I've been searching EBAY, etc for good deals on a EPROM ECU.
Have a few questions:
Do you have to get a ECU for the same exact car? For example, mine's a 1G AWD 5 spd, will a 1G FWD 5sp work?
AUTO ecu's won't work for manual cars, correct?
natedogg
Oct 17 2006, 02:06 PM
As long as its for a manual tranny and its 1G to 1G car or 2G to 2G car, you'll be good to go. AWD/FWD doesn't matter.
turbohcar
Oct 17 2006, 02:58 PM
Keep your eye on Ebay or contact Keydiver. I bought mine from him on Ebay just by freak chance. He gave me a 1yr warranty with it and a discount on chips too. But, I did pay a premium for it so be aware ($240 shipped).
black92_tsi_awd
Oct 17 2006, 05:29 PM
Thanks guys!
And a 90 will work in a 91-94 by swapping a couple of pin in the harness, correct?
Does a Federal ECU make a difference, I assume that's more "emisions" stringent ECU??
The Iron Goat
Oct 17 2006, 06:18 PM
The Federal ECU is the one most widely used in the states. The Cali model will be the more "toned-down" item for emissions reasons.
99Spyder
Oct 17 2006, 10:19 PM
Get your ECU swappin skills up to NASCAR pit crew speed and start lookin for a test drive candidate
mitsu90
Oct 18 2006, 05:39 PM
you can also use a ECU out of a GVR4 you just need to swap the cases around. I don't see why a auto ECU wouldn't work, once you have a chip burnt it shouldn't matter what it came from.
natedogg
Oct 19 2006, 06:59 AM
An auto ECU will throw a code if it can't talk to an active TCU. It also has completely different fuel and timing maps due to the different injector and turbo sizes. Burning the a chip will help but won't get rid of all the issues. It is much less of a headache to use an ECU out of a manual for a manual car.
SCCA Stang
Oct 19 2006, 11:32 PM
this is all really good stuff... we may have to archive this one for future reference
ncgalant
Oct 20 2006, 07:07 AM
An auto ECU will NOT throw a code if you put a manual EPROM chip in it.
natedogg
Oct 20 2006, 08:56 AM
The one I tried in my car did.
mitsu90
Oct 20 2006, 12:07 PM
the ECU that was in Adams laser when nate bought it was an auto ECU and as far as i know it NEVER threw a code.
natedogg
Oct 20 2006, 12:29 PM
I'm not trying argue with you. All I am going off of is my own experience.
mitsu90
Oct 20 2006, 08:06 PM
same here
black92_tsi_awd
Dec 30 2006, 10:58 PM
QUOTE (The Iron Goat @ Oct 17 2006, 06:18 PM)
The Federal ECU is the one most widely used in the states. The Cali model will be the more "toned-down" item for emissions reasons.
dragging up an old thread for more info

So a Cali model would not be desirable? What parameters would be "toned down"? Would those parameters be able to be tweaked with a tuned replacment eprom?
Chicago_DSM
Jan 1 2007, 02:32 PM
I could see that b/c Cali cars were always specific tuned for emissions....
I still dont know if my eprom is for an auto/year etc, I just made sure the ecu was 91+ before I bought it....
I figured that since my custom chip is burned for the larger injectors anyway, it wouldnt make a difference that an auto ecu is set for 390's or whatnot
black92_tsi_awd
Jan 1 2007, 05:13 PM
This is all good info for the archive. Thanks guys.
I finally did get a eprom from jvb6806. The hunt is finally over!
It is already socketed and includes a chip. the chip is burned for 560cc injectors, 8k redline, and 6k rpm launch limiter, and fuel cutoff deleted. My setup has 550's but I figured I'd use the translator to do the final tuning. The 6K launch limiter is a little high, but I'll give it a try.
jvb6806
Jan 1 2007, 05:19 PM
my old chip had a 5k launch limiter but with my new clutch and flywheel setup i bumped it to 6k. i have an exedy 3 puck and fidanza 8lbs flywheel.
black92_tsi_awd
Jan 1 2007, 05:31 PM
Yeah, I'm probalbly going to need a new chip burnt eventually. I've got a ACT 2600 and normally try to leave around 5200.
Chicago_DSM
Jan 1 2007, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (jvb6806 @ Jan 1 2007, 05:19 PM)
my old chip had a 5k launch limiter but with my new clutch and flywheel setup i bumped it to 6k. i have an exedy 3 puck and fidanza 8lbs flywheel.
Long time no talk! You still have a laser? I thought you had a Suby now or something?
Ha, and I shouldve bought your old eprom chip back in the day....I now run a eprom with a custom chip similar to the one you had (560's, studderbox, 2g mas )
Hey black_92....Youde be surprised with the damage you do with a 5000rpm limiter.....I build 10psi in just a second and did consistent 1.7 60's on a stock clutch, with a grabbier clutch it for sure would've been 1.6's all day....This was with a good amount of spin thru 1st as well....
black92_tsi_awd
Jan 2 2007, 07:24 AM
Chicago, that sounds really good! Lower ET's is always nice!
I'm really looking to improve consistency. I want to run the QuarterMaster series at Cordova this year, so I'm looking to get consistent launches.
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