There's a double edged sword here.

How does this change random drive bys, muggings, and the like? How does that prevent a guy with a gun from going onto campuses and opening fire still? People will still die from gun violence. Besides, you kill the gunman. He still got someone and he died, too. I haven't seen a gunman that opens fire on a school ground live in 10 years now. He still got what he wanted.

Say you have a gun on a plane and a terrorist tries to take control. Safety in numbers. They can carry then, too. More terrorists with a planned attack to take control. Then they can have people watching for those who want to step up. It wouldn't be a knife to slit a woman's throat. It would be a 9mm at her head. I still can't see it working out to be much safer.

I'm not looking to start a war of words here, either. Especially with you, Spy guy. But, I think, in the wake of some of the gun violence, this counterpoint should be equally voiced.

I still sit on the fence with this, but I find that I lean toward no conceal and carry laws

besides... it has been proven time and tinme again that conceal carry laws have REDUCED violent crime.. notice that I didn't say STOP.... but I too am a firm believer that guns in the hands of GOOD, WELL TRAINED individuals do in fact save lives....

reguardless of the laws, people who intend to do harm will carry a weapon.... if you disarm the rest of the population, then the only people who have the guns are the bad guys.... lets do what we can to change the laws so that people have the right to defend themselves.