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mitsu90
killed the 14b today leaving work sad.gif


























well guess I will finally put on the 16g biggrin.gif
black92_tsi_awd
What went boom on the 14b?

I might be interested in the pieces.
Dakota_DSM
QUOTE (mitsu90 @ Mar 31 2008, 03:17 PM)
well guess I will finally put on the 16g biggrin.gif

ohmy.gif About time!
mitsu90
just got it apart and compresser wheel is done. it has tons of shaft play. I am guessing I blew a seal, since it was smoking badly.
black92_tsi_awd
I just need a center section that's not worn out. Does it look like the housing is worn? When you wiggle the shaft (without the comprssor side parts in the way) does the journal bearing visibly move in the housing or is the wear all in the inner diameter of the brass bearing?
awd4kicks
you have had a rough couple of weeks with the Galant man. Get that turbo on there and put these troubles behind you.
mitsu90
thanx kicks you know as well as I do 25psi on a 14b is fun while it lasts tongue.gif

just got back from a test drive and DAMN!!!!!!!! does the 16g hit hard. seem about or better then the old frank jr. Still got a few things I need to do got some nice leaks at o2-down pipe got to reattach one of my hangers so it stops rattling. oh yea and I need to turn the boost down...... unsure.gif

chris I have not tore the 14b apart if you wanna meet some time after work tomorrow and take a look feel free.
mitsu90
the darn nut fell off mad.gif


mitsu90
well me and turbo's don't seem to get along

noticed at work today I was leaking oil from the oil return line at the oil pan. well when I tried to snug the bolts up I noticed one of the bolt holes in the pan is stripped. I also noticed that the oil coming out has brass flakes in it. so my guess is the 16g is on it's way out as well.


I am at the point of burning the pos to the ground.
awd4kicks
The oil return lines are the worst for leaks so don't feel alone. I don't know many if any that don't have a leaking return line.

Do you think that there is any chance the brass flakes are from the 14b that just went out? In either case sounds like a good time to drain the oil to keep from hurting the engine.
natedogg
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Apr 3 2008, 05:51 AM)
I don't know many if any that don't have a leaking return line.

Sounds like an old man problem to me, ODT. wink.gif
mitsu90
it could be from the 14b......but I have noticed a whine right before the turbo spools. I need a pair of ears that know what they are hearing.
awd4kicks
QUOTE (natedogg @ Apr 3 2008, 01:27 PM)
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Apr 3 2008, 05:51 AM)
I don't know many if any that don't have a leaking return line.

Sounds like an old man problem to me, ODT. wink.gif

Hahaha... your catchin up boy! tongue.gif
mitsu90
any tips or tricks to get the bolt hole re threaded with out dropping the pan? I am loosing far too much oil, and Mobil 1 is too expensive to leak on the ground.
awd4kicks
Well, If you pull the oil return tube all together it may give you room to put a small magnet up to the inside of the hole while you drill and or re-tap it for a larger bolt.

I think I would personally rather drop the pan and make sure no shaving get down in to the oil where they could be sent through the engine and possibly ruin it. Some things are just a pain in the A$$ if you want to do them right. I know that almost everytime that I've tried a short-cut it screwed something up causing me to do more work in the end than I would have if I did it right the first time. Good luck.
mitsu90
guess I am gonna have to put in some OT and save up for a new pan. I figure if I got to drop it might as well replace it.
black92_tsi_awd
You could try putting a helicoil in, might be cheaper than another pan.
mitsu90
I have never used a helicoil, I have seen it done. just not sure if this is the part I want to try out my first helicoil.
black92_tsi_awd
I thought I could throw one in for you...but I just checked the garage...I don't have any m6 helicoils.

A helicoil kit cost $20-30, but I imagine you can get a pan for that.
mitsu90
I think I have a pan on it's way from Pa.
mitsu90
My replacement pan should be here tomorrow. But I am having some other problems.


The "whine" I noticed has gotten louder and more often, I have lost all boost. The fins are perfect and the shaft play is nothing that worries me.I have talked to ncgalant and spy numerous times this week and what e are thinking is either a blockage in the IC piping or an oil feed problem.
JBone
Hook up a pressure tester and disconnect your intake piping at the intake manifold. Let's see what comes out!
mitsu90
waiting for TJ to get ahold of me to do a boost leak test.
JMoushon
QUOTE (mitsu90 @ Apr 13 2008, 04:18 PM)
My replacement pan should be here tomorrow. But I am having some other problems.


The "whine" I noticed has gotten louder and more often, I have lost all boost. The fins are perfect and the shaft play is nothing that worries me.I have talked to ncgalant and spy numerous times this week and what e are thinking is either a blockage in the IC piping or an oil feed problem.

Sounds like a boost leak to me. A large one. I have a checker if you need one.
mitsu90
boost leak complete, had one at the j-pipe fixed it and still save problem. at this point I am calling the turbo junk. mad.gif

anyone got a 14b,13g,t25 unsure.gif
mitsu90
Ok I have been talking to spy and he is not convinced it's my turbo just yet. We are gonna do an extensive boost leak test this weekend.We are leaning towards a hole in the intercooler. Seeing how I did the test by myself we feel I may have missed a leak.When I put the air in I can not get to my boost gauge before it get to 0. I have been told if it's bleeding off that fast I have a leak somewhere.

so there is a little hope for the 16g unsure.gif
black92_tsi_awd
It's got to be a hole in the intercooler or a slit in a coupler to be leaking that fast. I can't beleive you've got a cut oring in the turbo to leak that much air.

If you can't find any other causes, I can look at that turbo for you. I'm not expert but I've taken a few apart now and can see what's bad...and I'm free biggrin.gif
mitsu90
that would be awesome. I will post a pic of the turbo in a few mins.

The turbo looks perfect to me.
mitsu90
black92_tsi_awd
How's the oring around the outside edge of the centersection look where it seals around the compressor housing?

It should be dry, hard or have any cracks.

I emailed you about your part car.
mitsu90
ummm you know I never even noticed the O ring unsure.gif

I emailed you back.
mitsu90
figured the problem out


black92_tsi_awd
ohmy.gif

Is that the turbo shaft?!?!
slacker83
If you need a 14b or a t25 to get up and running I have one of each. I don't know the shape of the 14b but I am 90% sure the t25 is okay. I'm not going to need either one for quite some time and I don' t think I will need either at all because I have an 16g for the car.
mitsu90
how much for the 14b?

yup thats the shaft from the 16g, the nut backed off and the shaft snapped in half.
mitsu90
Thanx to slacker83 I have boost again biggrin.gif

pix of the 16g latter mad.gif
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