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 Apr 6 2003, 05:51 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak  Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24  |
That's right...It keeps over heating. I put a C&R aluminum radiator with a spal fan, I installed a 170 degree thermostat and when I drive on long stretches of road like the highway it gets hot and spews coolant out of the over flow. Now in town driving its fine but as soon as I run it on the highway it gets warm ????
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Apr 6 2003, 06:54 PM
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 Beginner Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Bloomington/Normal, Illinois. Member No.: 107 |
"its gettin hot in here....."
uh....i dunno. take off all your clothes?? heh. sorry. i dunno man. thats a sucky problem though. -------------------- we are not imports, we are not domestics, we are not riceburners, we are not jackasses, we are DSMers.
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Apr 6 2003, 08:46 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
Ditch the fan and put the stocker back on. Those aftermarket slimline fans pretty much suck, or not enough depending on you you mounted it.
I've got a fluidyne and I _was_ using 2 slimline fans but since they couldn't cut it, I went back to a single stock main fan and my cooling problems have been solved. Before, it would hang out at 3/4 hot, now it's always below half. -------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Apr 6 2003, 10:12 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
I agree, go back to the dual stocker fans. They pull a lot more air than any of the 'slim' aftermarket fans due to the gigantic motors
-------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Apr 7 2003, 04:49 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
When I got it home tonight I felt the air coming from the fan. At the top of the radiator it was hot and at the bottum it was cold. A drastic difference. Am I getting the radiator full enough???
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Apr 7 2003, 08:40 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Make sure you burp the cooling system a few times. Fill her up with water/coolant til she starts overflowing. Then run her til she gets to operating temp. with the heat on high. Turn her off, let her cool down, and add more water. Rinse and Repeat.
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Apr 7 2003, 05:21 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
QUOTE (Super16G @ Apr 7 2003, 10:49 AM) When I got it home tonight I felt the air coming from the fan. At the top of the radiator it was hot and at the bottum it was cold. A drastic difference. Am I getting the radiator full enough??? Sounds like the radiator is doing it's job pretty well if there is that big of a difference half way down. I'm sure that monster front mount you have is making the cooler part of the radiator actually absorb the warmer air off of the FMIC when you are cruising. It's not an insurmountable problem, but it definitely makes things a little more difficult. Have you tried the stock fan yet? I'd be interested, because I've heard that Spall is the best slim line fan (Meaning the others are junk) and is what I used on my Cobra. It seemed to work well for me. Marcus -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Apr 7 2003, 08:03 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
My stock fans are melted from the Super16G being so close. I think the fan does a fine enough job when it's working. I'm gonna wire a switch and turn it on manually on the longer stretches. I'm also gonna pull the Thermostat.It's gotta be something easy. I'm going from a two fan set up to a one fan set up???? Maybe it's not wired right...
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Apr 8 2003, 08:09 AM
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 HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Deep South Texas Member No.: 61 |
this may sound stupid but have you checked to see that the air is flowing the correct way because i've seen many a fans get wired wrong and the air flow is reversed. could be a possibility.
-------------------- Have you beaten a Ford lately? I HAVE...
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Apr 8 2003, 04:28 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
it pulls the air through the radiator
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Apr 8 2003, 08:01 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
Gutted an old T stat put it in and wired a switch to turn on the fan.
On a 34 degree evening I thought I would give it a whirl. Same result.In town perfect temps. Hell really low temps and then when I run it a few miles hard on an open stretch of road...BAM!!!! I notice coolant on the windshield and sure enough the temp rises. Anyone have anything for me? Any trouble shooting ideas? It seems like the higher rpms and the higher speeds are effecting it. After I let it sit with the fan running (the whole time) it kools right down, I put water in it, and fire it up and drive easy home and there are no problems 
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Apr 8 2003, 10:25 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Validating Posts: 365 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Mt. Sterling, IL Member No.: 60 |
W.
-------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
--------------------------------------- 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX- Traded in, buhbye little buddy 1994 Plymouth Laser- 1.8 auto. 1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse- GS auto. RIP 12/5/02 |
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Apr 8 2003, 10:26 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Validating Posts: 365 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Mt. Sterling, IL Member No.: 60 |
Well my dads 95 dakota he used to have kinda did the same thing. It cruised fine in town and highway, but one day i took it up to 80 on a country road, runnin it hard and the temp gauge almost pegged on it. I shut it down for a while and let it cool, got back and drove home and it was just fine. It ended up being some of the tubes or whatever inside the radiator were plugged and he had to get a new one. After that it was just fine. Guess it could be a possibility, even though the vehicles are different.
-------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
--------------------------------------- 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX- Traded in, buhbye little buddy 1994 Plymouth Laser- 1.8 auto. 1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse- GS auto. RIP 12/5/02 |
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Apr 9 2003, 09:03 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Todd,
My theory is that when your engine is already warm your 170 stat was staying open because it couldn't cool the fluid below 170. Obviously the gutted stat let's the fluid flow all the time also. So your fluid is never getting to spend much time in the radiator at higher RPM's because the water pump is churning like no tomorrow. Try the stock 190 and see if it helps by holding the water in the radiator a bit longer. Just an idea. Marcus -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Apr 9 2003, 10:02 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
I'll try it tomorrow.The stock reservoir and cap didnt help....I'm up for any suggestions.Gonna go in for a pressure test
 Wish us luck .......
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Apr 10 2003, 03:23 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
Pressure test was a big pass. So no leaks or head gasket issues. Marcus I'm gonna try the stock T stat in a minute. I'll keep the old reservoir on and put the new pressure cap on...I'll keep you posted. I heard a suggestion of making a restricter....Anyone heard of someone having to do this before?
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Apr 10 2003, 05:31 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
Cap and stock 190 degree T stat didnt help....Got it home and it was at 213 degrees.I checked the hoses and the top one was hot but the bottum one was cold.....Wierd....I ran the fan the whole time and the heater on the way back...This thing is bugging me....Antifreeze smells worse then rotting flesh
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Apr 10 2003, 05:41 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
DAMN! I'll keep thinking...
BTW-Are you sure all the anti-freeze is coming from the over flow? I would assume so since you just did a pressure test...but you keep taking about the sweet stench. Marcus -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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Apr 11 2003, 07:36 AM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 3-February 03 Member No.: 77 |
To me that only leaves 2 things. Air flow...or water pump. And if it were I, I'd check the water pump...I forgot to check for you todd on that price....I'll get back to ya.
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Apr 11 2003, 07:39 AM
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Beginner Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 3-February 03 Member No.: 77 |
or somthing is plugin it up...doubt that though. It just sounds like to me you arn't getting a flow through the system, hence the drastic temp change through the radiator....just my 2 cents
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