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 Jul 22 2003, 11:40 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather  Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26  |
We have now reserved the Cordova dragstrip on September 21, 2003 for all our local Sport Compact racers to show their stuff and have some fun in a safe and legal environment.
There are still some details to work out, but things are on a roll. We envision between 20-50 people joining in on this event. With this small number of racers there will be no problem getting as many runs as you like! For more information go to: http://www.dsmcentral.com/cordova Please use this forum to ask any questions and follow up on the current word. DSMCentral -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Jul 22 2003, 11:45 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
God I hope my car is running again by then!!!
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jul 22 2003, 01:19 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 436 Joined: 21-September 02 From: Urbana Member No.: 15 |
I hope my car doesn't break before then!
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Jul 22 2003, 01:40 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
I hope my car is fixed and not broken again by then.
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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Jul 22 2003, 01:41 PM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Haha! Go to the registration and check out 'Who's going'.
Apparently, Dave Stealth will be there driving a 'Netter'. 
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Jul 22 2003, 02:39 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (natedogg @ Jul 22 2003, 07:41 PM) Apparently, Dave Stealth will be there driving a 'Netter'. Sounds about right 
-------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Jul 23 2003, 12:36 AM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 14-January 03 From: Bloomington Member No.: 66 |
so when do we register/pay and to whom do I fork over my cash?
I don't know what car I'll be in, hell, it could even be my fargin 92 vic. |
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Jul 23 2003, 07:46 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
QUOTE (badbu68 @ Jul 23 2003, 06:36 AM) so when do we register/pay and to whom do I fork over my cash? I don't know what car I'll be in, hell, it could even be my fargin 92 vic. We may just have everyone pay at the gate, but we will be meeting about this and other questions soon. Thanks for asking and your civic is more than welcome same as your Rx7 and Chevelle! -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Jul 23 2003, 09:11 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
That's a good question. Are we able to run more than one vechile for the one entrance fee? If so, I wouldn't mind making a pass or two with the truck, just for kicks. Maybe something that will have to be worked out at the next meeting.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jul 23 2003, 11:12 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
I've thought about this and initially my feeling is that we will only charge per driver. Whatever car he/she drives or how many they bring would be up to them.
This brings up a good point though. To those already involved and those that would like to help, we need to get together again soon to make sure we are getting the details taken care of. Unless there is a mass conflict with this let's plan on meeting at East Peoria Applebees at 7:30PM Monday night. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Jul 23 2003, 04:57 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Tech Moderators Posts: 388 Joined: 19-September 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 11 |
I can't make the meeting on Monday, but I do need to meet up with someone this is going.
I need to get some money and a pressure plate to Mark95 and then have you hold some parts for me until I can pick them up on wednesday. -------------------- Brian J
1996 Talon TSI AWD Great indeed is the power of the dragon as the sun, yet humbly and slowly it meanders its way shy, minuscule indeed is the power of the tiny scorpion, yet it swaggers its tail and boasts to the sky. |
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Jul 23 2003, 05:06 PM
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 Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
MMM I cant wait till Sept! I will finally make it down a dragstrip!
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Jul 23 2003, 06:09 PM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
Also I added a spot were when you register, you can enter the number of people comming with you so we can get a head count! if you already entered data and want to change it, pm me!
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Jul 24 2003, 08:06 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
The time is right at the top of the sign-up page. Click here for the time of the event
Quick one, aren't ya?
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Jul 24 2003, 08:26 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Unless/until Cordova management comes up with a more organized way to run this program, I plan on the event being run like a Test & Tune. Where each driver will run what ever they are racing as many times as they can or want and give us a copy of their fastest time slip for each vehicle.
You won't necessarily have the 2nd fastest FWD racing the Fastest FWD in a stand-off. The best time slip for each vehicle will be the decision maker. Depending on Cordova's input and possibly more automation/cost, we may end up having to charge per race car, to cover keeping track of so many. I'll let you know. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Jul 24 2003, 08:27 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Jul 24 2003, 08:10 AM) Taking notes I see. The event starts at noon, those intending to lend a helping hand should be there at what time? I may not be the quickest, but MY brakes work. Well...at least you have something to be proud of. I don't think they time that at the drag strip, though. |
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Jul 24 2003, 10:29 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Jul 24 2003, 08:31 AM) Proud about functional brakes? It would seem so. |
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Jul 24 2003, 10:33 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Jul 24 2003, 08:26 AM) Unless/until Cordova management comes up with a more organized way to run this program, I plan on the event being run like a Test & Tune. Where each driver will run what ever they are racing as many times as they can or want and give us a copy of their fastest time slip for each vehicle. You won't necessarily have the 2nd fastest FWD racing the Fastest FWD in a stand-off. The best time slip for each vehicle will be the decision maker. Depending on Cordova's input and possibly more automation/cost, we may end up having to charge per race car, to cover keeping track of so many. I'll let you know. I would like to make it so that we can pick who we want to run against to some extent (grude matches and the like). I really don't want to be racing 18 sec honda's all day. 
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jul 24 2003, 11:37 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
QUOTE (POS AWD @ Jul 24 2003, 04:33 PM) QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Jul 24 2003, 08:26 AM) Unless/until Cordova management comes up with a more organized way to run this program, I plan on the event being run like a Test & Tune. Where each driver will run what ever they are racing as many times as they can or want and give us a copy of their fastest time slip for each vehicle. You won't necessarily have the 2nd fastest FWD racing the Fastest FWD in a stand-off. The best time slip for each vehicle will be the decision maker. Depending on Cordova's input and possibly more automation/cost, we may end up having to charge per race car, to cover keeping track of so many. I'll let you know. I would like to make it so that we can pick who we want to run against to some extent (grude matches and the like). I really don't want to be racing 18 sec honda's all day. You guys are a bunch of worry worts. Yeah at test and tunes you can asked to be lined up with who ever you want. So it will be that much easier to do that since, for one there will only be 20-50 racers and number two we will be controlling how it goes down.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Jul 24 2003, 11:52 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Jul 24 2003, 11:37 AM) You guys are a bunch of worry worts.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jul 24 2003, 12:48 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Tech Moderators Posts: 388 Joined: 19-September 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Jul 24 2003, 08:10 AM) I may not be the quickest, but MY brakes work  ouch......that was a low blow
-------------------- Brian J
1996 Talon TSI AWD Great indeed is the power of the dragon as the sun, yet humbly and slowly it meanders its way shy, minuscule indeed is the power of the tiny scorpion, yet it swaggers its tail and boasts to the sky. |
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Jul 25 2003, 09:46 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Jul 25 2003, 07:04 AM) If I offended you there Nate, with the brake comments and all, I apologize.   No worries, buddy. Coming from someone I didn't know well I may have been offended. But, I expect those kinds of remarks from you. Its all good. No harm done. |
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Jul 28 2003, 06:47 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Are we still on for 7:30 in EP?
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jul 28 2003, 11:17 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
I'll be there! Applebees in East Peoria at 7:30PM.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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Jul 28 2003, 01:10 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
I'll be there too! Are you bringing that ECU still Dan??
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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Jul 28 2003, 02:51 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
I'll try to be there. I have to stop by a gentleman's house to re-setup his receiver. I think I'll be done by 7or so.
-------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Aug 3 2003, 12:03 PM
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 HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 3-August 03 From: The Bermuda Triangle known as Bloomington, IL Member No.: 158 |
7 weeks and counting, boys and girls....
-------------------- You think you DSM guys have a love/hate relationship? Try having an RX-7!
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Aug 4 2003, 11:35 AM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
Yeah and we have 25 registered cars tooo! More cars.... More cars!!
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Aug 7 2003, 07:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 7-August 03 Member No.: 160 |
hi, i stumbled upon your website through the downshift website at u of i... anyways i am really interested in the cordova drag strip i was just wondering if it was alright to come in my stock oldsmobile alero, b/c there are soo many imports going... dont get me wrong i love imports too the alero is just what i have right now. thanks.
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Aug 7 2003, 08:47 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (alero168 @ Aug 7 2003, 07:37 PM) hi, i stumbled upon your website through the downshift website at u of i... anyways i am really interested in the cordova drag strip i was just wondering if it was alright to come in my stock oldsmobile alero, b/c there are soo many imports going... dont get me wrong i love imports too the alero is just what i have right now. thanks. Anyone is welcome! I think Jbone is planning on bringing his Focus, so you will be far from the slowest on the list....
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Aug 8 2003, 08:53 AM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
Everyone is welcome to come. I will be there in my 02 dodge stratus, a buddy Jeremy will bring his 2003 Masda Speed Protege, Jbone with his banana. Maybe we can have a domestic side as well. we can have our own battles!
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Aug 8 2003, 01:58 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 7-August 03 Member No.: 160 |
nice... hope no one laughs too hard at my car
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Aug 8 2003, 03:41 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
QUOTE (alero168 @ Aug 8 2003, 01:58 PM) nice... hope no one laughs too hard at my car Only one that will be lauging is me... because I'll whip you all... with the trophy for the SLOWEST CAR. I am beginning to write my speech now. -------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Aug 21 2003, 12:21 PM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 3-August 03 From: The Bermuda Triangle known as Bloomington, IL Member No.: 158 |
1 month to the day, ladies.
-------------------- You think you DSM guys have a love/hate relationship? Try having an RX-7!
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Aug 21 2003, 12:23 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (CHEF_EG_1 @ Aug 21 2003, 12:21 PM) 1 month to the day, ladies. This POS will be ready and waiting.... -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Aug 21 2003, 12:45 PM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
I am getting excited!
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Aug 21 2003, 03:52 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
"You're excited? Check out how hard these are! (Points to chest)"
-------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Sep 8 2003, 12:21 AM
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HONDA KILLER Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 3-August 03 From: The Bermuda Triangle known as Bloomington, IL Member No.: 158 |
holy crap, it's only 2 weeks away. is a front fascia required to enter the competition? What about a hood?
-------------------- You think you DSM guys have a love/hate relationship? Try having an RX-7!
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Sep 8 2003, 06:55 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Will their be a couple helmets that can be borrowed? I just realized that I need one to run 13.99 or quicker, and this POS better be able to pull better than that!
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Sep 8 2003, 07:20 AM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
I will bring two Bell helmets with me a medium and a Large. I will not need them, but none the less I will bring them for people to use.
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Sep 8 2003, 08:01 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I'll take you up on one of those helmets, Mike. Might seem kinda weird to the Cordova staff if I drove up to the box with a roll cage, 5-point harness, and no helmet.
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Sep 8 2003, 08:39 AM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
Kind of hard to pull a "I didnt know I could run 12's" when you have all of that stuff on your car!
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Sep 8 2003, 08:47 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (natedogg @ Sep 8 2003, 08:01 AM) I'll take you up on one of those helmets, Mike. Might seem kinda weird to the Cordova staff if I drove up to the box with a roll cage, 5-point harness, and no helmet. Yea, no crap!!
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Sep 8 2003, 11:35 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
QUOTE (CHEF_EG_1 @ Sep 8 2003, 06:21 AM) holy crap, it's only 2 weeks away. is a front fascia required to enter the competition? What about a hood? Sorry Chef, but I'm sure that a hood and front facia are required. BTW - I will also bring a helmet along that people can use when I don't need it. Otherwise those who are fast enough will have to borrow others or fend for themselves. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Sep 9 2003, 06:05 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 436 Joined: 21-September 02 From: Urbana Member No.: 15 |
my car is invisible, so no one will see me run anyways
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Sep 9 2003, 06:34 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
if they're going to require that you wear a helmet will I get thrown out for no roll cage then? it would really suck to only get one run for 50.
-------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Sep 9 2003, 06:52 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Not sure what you hope to run Kris, but if it's gonna be faster than 11.99, that could be a real possibility. Cordova has never been real good at teching cars that I've seen, but then I've never run faster than a 13.9... I'd say take it easy for the first couple runs and see what happens.
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Sep 9 2003, 07:05 AM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
Hey Kris, you should be fine from what I can read!
Please everyone go to http://www.cordovadrag.com/pages/Rules/tra...rack_rules.html and view the track rules. If you have ANY questions please feel free to ask! -------------------- |
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Sep 9 2003, 07:06 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (POS AWD @ Sep 9 2003, 06:52 AM) Not sure what you hope to run Kris, but if it's gonna be faster than 11.99, that could be a real possibility. Cordova has never been real good at teching cars that I've seen, but then I've never run faster than a 13.9... I'd say take it easy for the first couple runs and see what happens. Is a roll cage required for 11's? I thought it was only required for 10's or faster. Then again, maybe Kris'll be in the 10's. Can anyone clear this up?
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Sep 9 2003, 07:11 AM
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Post Master Group: Admin Posts: 705 Joined: 10-January 01 From: STL Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE (From Cordovadrag.com) C-1. If you go quicker than 9:99 quarter mile/6:49 eighth mile you must make licensing runs and purchase a license as required by IHRA rules. Chassis Certification is mandatory on all entries 9:00 or quicker
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Sep 9 2003, 07:28 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (Mike @ Sep 9 2003, 07:11 AM) QUOTE (From Cordovadrag.com) C-1. If you go quicker than 9:99 quarter mile/6:49 eighth mile you must make licensing runs and purchase a license as required by IHRA rules. Chassis Certification is mandatory on all entries 9:00 or quicker Haha! Damn! I think only Darryl would be going that fast. |
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Sep 9 2003, 08:06 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Darryl would probably be the authority on this one, but I'm pretty sure it's 11.99 or 10.99 for the cage and 5 point harness.... I also think that this is when you have to start wearing the fire-rated jacket and gloves...
To find out for sure you would have to check the IHRA rules. I'll look if I get time today... -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Sep 9 2003, 08:41 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Without rechecking I'm positive that a cage is required once you break into the 11's. At the same time I've almost never worn a helmet that is supposed to be on when you make any pas into the 13's. LEt's just say I've had plenty of those.
With no cage and times in the 11's or less, what I think will happen is you will get one or two full out runs making those times and then someone will tell you to only go full throttle to the 1/8 mile to be safe. There will be a lot fewer people than normal, but I'm not sure if this will mean they will be more lax or strict. Eitherway, they have to try to be as safe as possible. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Sep 9 2003, 09:15 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
I guess I'll know better what to expect from the car at cordova after Battle of the Imports this weekend. I read cordova's website and I didn't come up with much other than what was already posted about obtaining a license. Maybe they are being non-specific about track policy to avoid suits or something.
-------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Sep 9 2003, 09:19 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Sep 9 2003, 08:41 AM) Without rechecking I'm positive that a cage is required once you break into the 11's. At the same time I've almost never worn a helmet that is supposed to be on when you make any pas into the 13's. LEt's just say I've had plenty of those. With no cage and times in the 11's or less, what I think will happen is you will get one or two full out runs making those times and then someone will tell you to only go full throttle to the 1/8 mile to be safe. There will be a lot fewer people than normal, but I'm not sure if this will mean they will be more lax or strict. Eitherway, they have to try to be as safe as possible. Cool. Thanks for the info. |
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Sep 9 2003, 11:23 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 396 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 8 |
Joliet Route 66 is very strict! Cordova generally is not. I think overall that IHRS is less strict than NHRA and the NHRA rules are 11.99 or faster for roll cage/harness etc.
I have seen them require helmets at Cordova especially if cars have a T-top roof. But in general you are going to be fine unless you blow off an 11.2 in the first pass down the track or something like that. I really would not worry about it much. My two cents- Susan Darryl would know a little more about IHRA but we don't know much because we always go by NHRA and they are always stricter and require more at a slower time. -------------------- |
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Sep 9 2003, 11:28 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
The IHRA requires a roll cage at 11.49 or faster, and I believe helmets are required at 13.49 (possibly 13.99) or faster.
-------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Sep 9 2003, 11:32 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Thanks Susan! I was looking around for some better info, but they make you buy a copy of the rulebook to find all that out! Bastards.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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