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 Oct 25 2005, 07:13 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin.  Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636  |
Alright, I know this is a big Q. but I need help tuning my car. If there is anyone that could help me out with this on a saturday or sunday. I have a datalogger and a 5- Knob SAFC. As most of you know I done a 2G mafs upgrade. Well I need help to get it race ready for Nov.6. I would appreciate any help.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 26 2005, 08:27 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I should be around Saturday during the day if you want to drop by.
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Oct 26 2005, 08:32 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Budmann, Nate lives in Peoria so keep that in mind.
BTW, I saw your car at the MOD show and I had one suggestion for you. Get a silicone coupler for the intake pipe-to-turbo section. With a proper silicone coupler, you won't have to worry about kinking the wastegate actuator line. BTW, that will be a 3inch to 2.25inch coupler reducer. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 26 2005, 01:17 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Thanks for the tip Turbo. I will have to look into it. I've got a tight girlfriend, and she don't like to let go of the cash.
 Nate I appreciate that you will help me. I will let you know by tomorrow night if it will be possible to do that, you know with the woman and all. I got to squeeze the money out her and my time. 
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 26 2005, 02:21 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 774 Joined: 28-October 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 32 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 26 2005, 01:17 PM) Thanks for the tip Turbo. I will have to look into it. I've got a tight girlfriend, and she don't like to let go of the cash. Nate I appreciate that you will help me. I will let you know by tomorrow night if it will be possible to do that, you know with the woman and all. I got to squeeze the money out her and my time. There are far worse things to have than a tight girlfriend... -------------------- 2009 Scion Tc
1994 Del Sol Si 1991 Talon TSi AWD 1990 Mustang GT FOR SALE!!! |
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Oct 26 2005, 02:23 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
.....Dan's pooper?
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 26 2005, 09:26 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 26 2005, 09:32 AM) Budmann, Nate lives in Peoria so keep that in mind. Get a silicone coupler for the intake pipe-to-turbo section. BTW, that will be a 3inch to 2.25inch coupler reducer. I have looked for this reducer and I can't seem to find it. If you know where to get one let me know. Nate give me a time that would be good for you. I can be there in morton by noon to drop off the ole lady . She has a friend that lives there and it works out great. Drop her off and I can meet you and do what we have to do. Just let me know and some directions or address. Hmmm, Maybe a phone number. 
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 27 2005, 07:03 AM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/hoseandclamps.htm
Find it there - hope it's in-stock! and ANY gf's tighter than Dan's ... oh, nevermind ... -------------------- ... she likes bein' forced ...
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Oct 27 2005, 08:57 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 26 2005, 09:26 PM) QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 26 2005, 09:32 AM) Budmann, Nate lives in Peoria so keep that in mind. Get a silicone coupler for the intake pipe-to-turbo section. BTW, that will be a 3inch to 2.25inch coupler reducer. I have looked for this reducer and I can't seem to find it. If you know where to get one let me know. Nate give me a time that would be good for you. I can be there in morton by noon to drop off the ole lady . She has a friend that lives there and it works out great. Drop her off and I can meet you and do what we have to do. Just let me know and some directions or address. Hmmm, Maybe a phone number. I'll PM ya. |
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Oct 27 2005, 09:16 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
QUOTE (natedogg @ Oct 27 2005, 08:57 AM) QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 26 2005, 09:26 PM) QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 26 2005, 09:32 AM) Budmann, Nate lives in Peoria so keep that in mind. Get a silicone coupler for the intake pipe-to-turbo section. BTW, that will be a 3inch to 2.25inch coupler reducer. I have looked for this reducer and I can't seem to find it. If you know where to get one let me know. Nate give me a time that would be good for you. I can be there in morton by noon to drop off the ole lady . She has a friend that lives there and it works out great. Drop her off and I can meet you and do what we have to do. Just let me know and some directions or address. Hmmm, Maybe a phone number. I'll PM ya. FYI Nate, I checked those other 2 sites you mentioned for this stuff in another thread and found RRE cheaper - then before I hung up she said I'd get the order at 20% off - they didn't have quantity of what I wanted for my planning overkill. So the discount may have been about that, but hey! -------------------- ... she likes bein' forced ...
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Oct 27 2005, 09:17 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Yeah RRE was cheaper on some stuff, the other sites cheaper on others, especially on stuff RRE doesn't stock.
 Budmann, for your benefit, check out www.turbohoses.com and www.hosetechniques.com . |
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Oct 27 2005, 09:21 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Thanks men. And Nate I got your pm and that should be sufficient. I pretty much now my way around by the main streets. I will have no problem finding you.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 27 2005, 09:25 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Cool!
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Oct 27 2005, 01:24 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Central Illinois Member No.: 318 |
What time are you guys thinkin' - or, perhaps, how late's the 'dogg garage open Saturday?
-------------------- ... she likes bein' forced ...
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Oct 27 2005, 01:36 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (Kazz5 @ Oct 27 2005, 02:24 PM) What time are you guys thinkin' - or, perhaps, how late's the 'dogg garage open Saturday? I should be at Nates about 12:30-1:00. -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 28 2005, 06:57 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
12:30 to 1 works for me. I'll be in the garage anyway. Gotta fix the coolant return line on the turbo for the Talon and change the oil in the Evo.
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Oct 28 2005, 12:41 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
so is this an open tuning day?
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Oct 28 2005, 02:09 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Hmm...we'll see. I've got some work I have to get done to my cars also. Anyone is always welcome to come over and hang out though.
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Oct 28 2005, 08:20 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
dose the 5 knob afc work like the afcII ? I manly need to leard how to use one...well thats if I can get it hooked up
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Oct 28 2005, 08:28 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (mitsu90 @ Oct 28 2005, 09:20 PM) dose the 5 knob afc work like the afcII ? I manly need to leard how to use one...well thats if I can get it hooked up I can send you the pdf on it. I need an email address. If you want to wait till tomorrow we can do it at Nates. -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 29 2005, 03:39 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
got the vfaq on hookinh it up gonna do that sometime saturday.
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Oct 29 2005, 06:39 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
They don't give you that part in my intructions. They say to take it to a Apexi dealer. Anything to try and squeeze more money out of us. And that is why I'm going to Nates today.
Do you have a logger mitsu90? Because you are going to need it to monitor your engine performance, when you hook up your Safc. -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Oct 29 2005, 11:25 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
 ummm no I don't have a logger
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Nov 3 2005, 06:05 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
 Hey guys I found out why I was running so lean. My rubber hose that I put on the fuel pump bursted/seperated.I was actually trying to find out why when I filled the car full with gas my gas gauge would fall on it's face (go all the way to the left). It starts showing fuel about 1/4 to 3/8 of a tank. I have the 255 walbro, when I bought it, it came with pump and filter. No wires so I had to wire myself. I heat shrank the positive female fitting before I put it in. But I didn't the positive tube connecter, Just crimped and left it like that. Is this thing shorting out on me when I fill 'er up? 
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Nov 3 2005, 07:22 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Aha! Glad you found the culprit.
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Nov 3 2005, 07:27 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
But why is my fuel gauge doing that? Could it be what I explained.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Nov 3 2005, 07:35 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
The gauge is a different part of the wiring harness. Did to bend the float arm when you put the pump back in?
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Nov 3 2005, 07:37 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Nov 3 2005, 07:35 AM) The gauge is a different part of the wiring harness. Did to bend the float arm when you put the pump back in? No, Why would that cause the gauge to go to past empty when it's full? -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Nov 3 2005, 07:40 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I'm guessing some kind of wiring issue. Sounds like its time to break out the multimeter again.
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Nov 3 2005, 07:44 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Damnit! I hate that thing
 Multimeter.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Nov 3 2005, 08:31 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Nov 3 2005, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Nov 3 2005, 07:35 AM) The gauge is a different part of the wiring harness. Did to bend the float arm when you put the pump back in? No, Why would that cause the gauge to go to past empty when it's full? Sorry read it wrong, I was thinking it stays at "E" and doesn't register until you have 1/4 tank in...if you would have bent it up, it would have to fill up until it hit the float. Natedogg's tight, time for the multimeter...
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Nov 3 2005, 08:44 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Nov 3 2005, 08:31 AM) Natedogg's tight Been talking Goat, eh? |
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Nov 3 2005, 09:32 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Doh!!!
 You must be the pitcher...not the catcher then! -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Nov 3 2005, 11:04 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
This is just a pic to show you what I found when I pulled the pump. Notice the hose. Click on the pic to enlarge!
 This is what I found when I pulled my fuel gauge cover off. The part that is screwed to the fuel pump housing. Notice the burnt spot on the left of the board, I think it's fried. 
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Nov 3 2005, 11:31 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Thats not good.
Did you use high pressure fuel line?? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Nov 3 2005, 11:36 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I used what I thought was High pressure fuel line. It should have been it was sent with my afpr.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Nov 3 2005, 11:37 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Your AFPR was a $4.00 Ebay buy though correct?
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Nov 3 2005, 11:43 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
what turbohcar^ said...
High pressure line will be labeled...and costs more than $4 a foot... -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Nov 3 2005, 12:47 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Nov 3 2005, 11:37 AM) Your AFPR was a $4.00 Ebay buy though correct?  Yes I did buy it for that much. I went to the parts store and got the right fuel line. And got enough to replace the peace I have on the afpr. Don't want that one to blow either.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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