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post Sep 25 2002, 01:28 PM
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I was cruisin' through the machv forum and stumbled upon this:
<http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=206707&highlight=dsm>

I'm not the greatest at putting up links. I hope that it worked. It is freakin' hilarious laugh.gif
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post Sep 30 2002, 08:33 AM
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Oh I know AWD rocks.  I own one and I'd never get rid of it  any time soon.

I'm just saying AWD has it's limitations, thats all.  In stock form, or low level mods, it really shows.  I was just tring to point out that even tho AWD kicks ass out of the box, it might not be able to stay ahead of the RWD V8 in the long run.  

If you have a 12 second car, it really doesn't matter.

I love AWD in the snow and rain.  Hell, I love it on dry roads.  

We were talking about stock DSMs and the AWD gets it's 1/4 because of it's take off.  For a stock or slightly AWD TEL racing a Mustang, it would be  a short race if the AWD didn't get the take off right.  Not doging AWD at all, but it does slow us down.  Thats all.  Once you build the car up and add the HP, then you can take cars down from a roll and still keep pulling.  

In comparing with owning a FWD and a AWD, it did take a lot less mods to make the FWD move on top end.  If I could only choose one, I would go with the AWD because of it's all over advantage.  However there is one place the FWD is a blast and that is on the HWY.  Weather I'm racing someone or just tring to get away from a crowd of lemmings, I just have to mash the gas and the thing just keeps going and going.  Even with intake mods, MBC, and test pipe, I flew to 135 much faster in the Talon  then in the Galant with the same level of mods.  

Cars that would spank my FWD in the 1/4 would have trouble tring to get away from me on the HWY.  I know when I first raced my Talon at the track, I was beaten by a high 13s Mustang.  The thing just took off so much faster then I could, but I was starting to pull by then end of the 1/4.  It was just too late at the moment.  If we had gone for the 1000meter race, I might have won.  Point being, from a roll, FWD really looks good.  Anyone stupid enough to race a modded FWD from a roll will prolly get thair ass handed to them.  That being the stock V8 crowd.

So, both cars have a advantage.  It is just clear that AWD has the overall advantage.

William


I used to completely agree with you here William. In fact, it used to be my claim to fame as one of the few FWD drivers on here. But recent events have changed my mind.

I now own an AWD. I recently raced Josh's FWD with it from a roll. Our mods are almost exactly the same...16G, full 3" exhaust, and so on. Except, he was running about 4 psi more boost than me and he has a big ole' FMIC. I pulled on him from a 15 mph roll all the way through 4th gear until I had about 2-3 cars on him. I also recently raced a turbocharged Integra from a 50 mph roll. We all know how light those cars are. Marcus was with me when I pulled 2 to 3 cars on this Integra from a 50 mph roll and he even gave himself a little head start. In both of these races the AWD traction advantage was taken out of the equation, and my Tsi still performed beyond my expectations.

Now stock to stock, AWD may have some serious disadvantages at the top end. But once you start modding them, it seems the drivetrain losses become negligible. I'm only speaking from my driving experiences with modded FWD and AWD DSM's here. Theory can't hold a candle to fact. And what's better experimentation than 'spirited driving'!
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- JBone   Pretty freakin' funny   Sep 25 2002, 01:28 PM
- - need4speed1303   lmfao Those guys are a gag everyone needs to r...   Sep 25 2002, 03:31 PM
- - gvr4ever   That's pretty funny. I had no ideal that the Stan...   Sep 25 2002, 04:00 PM
- - need4speed1303   I know a friend of mine who has a Mustang cobra an...   Sep 25 2002, 05:33 PM
- - Anonymous   Common... My experiences show that almost every h...   Sep 26 2002, 11:24 AM
- - Anonymous   Oh BTW - I'm not saying that a DSM can't lose. Bu...   Sep 26 2002, 11:28 AM
- - gvr4ever   It takes skill to drive a 2wd car. Front or rear....   Sep 26 2002, 03:49 PM
- - Anonymous   Wow...how did that stem from my feedback? In a wa...   Sep 26 2002, 08:41 PM
- - Anonymous   Just as a side note. I am not the egomaniac that ...   Sep 26 2002, 08:54 PM
- - gvr4ever   Where did it all come from? I think I was reading...   Sep 26 2002, 09:07 PM
- - Anonymous   Yeah, come on out William! There are a lot of tho...   Sep 26 2002, 09:38 PM
- - Anonymous   Actually you wil lhave to e-mail me at awd4kicks@y...   Sep 26 2002, 09:41 PM
- - gvr4ever   I'll try and be there Saturday night. How many pl...   Sep 27 2002, 12:36 AM
- - JBone   "There are a lot of those crazy people in this sce...   Sep 27 2002, 06:54 AM
- - Anonymous   JBone...you underestimate yourself! Half of the s...   Sep 27 2002, 07:31 AM
- - natedogg   I'm not sure what the problem is. I read the whol...   Sep 27 2002, 08:31 AM
- - gvr4ever   Ya a AWD can out launch a stock Mustang on street ...   Sep 27 2002, 01:31 PM
- - wortdog   Saw you guys talking about people that can't drive...   Sep 28 2002, 01:35 AM
- - Anonymous   The engine swap is comming along nicely Eric! I g...   Sep 28 2002, 11:26 AM
- - gvr4ever   Oh I know AWD rocks. I own one and I'd never get ...   Sep 28 2002, 02:00 PM
- - Anonymous   Your exaclty right William. We both agree... BTW...   Sep 29 2002, 01:17 PM
- - Anonymous   Sorry man. We lost track of time. We were busy a...   Sep 29 2002, 01:33 PM
- - scorp28   I have owned all 3 types-AWD, FWD, and RWD. I have...   Sep 30 2002, 01:19 AM
- - natedogg   Re: YES IT WAS A GOOD RACE   Sep 30 2002, 08:20 AM
- - natedogg   QUOTE Oh I know AWD rocks.  I own one and I'd...   Sep 30 2002, 08:33 AM
- - Anonymous   Josh needs to log his car for knock or timming pro...   Sep 30 2002, 09:17 AM
- - natedogg   I agree that cars definitely vary in performance e...   Sep 30 2002, 10:21 AM


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