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turbohcar
post Oct 10 2005, 10:17 PM
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Tonight was the first night for the Talon. The first night on insurance and plates in the last three years. Everything started out right. I drove to town (about 12miles) to the nearest gas station where I met a friend of mine. I put some premium in her and discuss how happy I am that nothing has happened....yet. Rolling back down the main strip after filling up we make the long cruise to our get-off point. We came to several reds but this one was unlike any other. This one, the beast in me came out. I couldn't help it. The car wanted more than just cruising, and my right foot couldn't help but bury itself into the firewall. As quoted from my friend, "That thing shat and took off like a Tomahawk missle!" Cruising through town (another 4 miles) we got to the turn off and made our way to our destination. Just before we got to our destination (11 miles from town) the car started overheating. Not just "it's overheating a little bit it'll be fine till I get it looked at". NO, it's just humming along just fine, the temp gauge is reading straight up and down and then all the sudden it starts climbing like crazy. Logger showed it got up to 111*C (or 232*F) when it had been running at 96.8*C (206*F). I didn't know until just now that it was running that hot regularly but it didn't show any signs of overheating. I had the fans running all night as a precaution.

It has done this one other time though. Almost a year ago it overheated when I blew a heatercore hose. It climbed to the mark just before the red on the temp gauge and I nursed it home without going into the red to fix it.

At this point I'm tired. I've been wrenching all night and I want to go to bed. If any of you have any suggestions feel free. The cooling system is as follows:

2G aluminum radiator
brand new OEM Mitsu radiator cap
new thermostat with the rebuild
new (Felpro) headgasket with the rebuild
1G fans running full time
new coolant

Like I said, suggestions will be taken. Right now I'm just trying to pick my pride up off the ground. AWD DSM 1 you have a PM.


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The Iron Goat
post Oct 12 2005, 09:13 AM
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Sounds like a good place to start at. Best of luck with getting her back up and running.


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QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready...
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- turbohcar   1st Night Out: Terrible!   Oct 10 2005, 10:17 PM
- - jvb6806   230 degrees isn't really a big deal. did the t...   Oct 10 2005, 11:55 PM
- - BudmannG   When you filled the radiator did you make sure all...   Oct 11 2005, 07:48 AM
- - turbohcar   Fans were on full time. The thermostat (I'm...   Oct 11 2005, 08:25 AM
- - wntsom4   Sounds like the thermostat is sticking, that's...   Oct 11 2005, 08:54 AM
- - turbohcar   OE Mitsu headgasket and thermostat will be here on...   Oct 11 2005, 10:37 AM
- - awd4kicks   Brett, if your going to change the head gasket I w...   Oct 11 2005, 10:47 AM
- - turbohcar   Well, when I had the engine rebuilt, I couldn...   Oct 11 2005, 11:29 AM
- - turbohcar   Mitsu ordered the correct gasket. I just confirme...   Oct 11 2005, 12:26 PM
- - awd4kicks   It would be great if Felpro got that straightened ...   Oct 11 2005, 01:10 PM
- - turbohcar   I just ordered some ARP's through Slowboy as w...   Oct 11 2005, 01:34 PM
- - badbu68   Are you going to resurface the head?   Oct 11 2005, 02:15 PM
- - turbohcar   If it's a headgasket, YES of course. More tha...   Oct 11 2005, 02:18 PM
- - turbohcar   BTW, what coolant temperature do your DSMs usually...   Oct 11 2005, 03:01 PM
- - 90GSX   For future reference you can go here and get one. ...   Oct 11 2005, 04:02 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   Last head gasket I got was around $50... Mac...   Oct 11 2005, 04:05 PM
- - jvb6806   depending on what thermostat you put in that is th...   Oct 11 2005, 09:17 PM
- - turbohcar   My price on the OE Mitsu headgasket 4-layer steel ...   Oct 11 2005, 09:21 PM
- - jvb6806   i would bet money that you aren't really deton...   Oct 11 2005, 11:52 PM
- - turbohcar   I didn't know Autozone had a 180* thermostat, ...   Oct 12 2005, 07:29 AM
- - badbu68   If it's at idle and cold, your thermastat shou...   Oct 12 2005, 07:55 AM
- - turbohcar   ^Good point. I did not know that about thermostat...   Oct 12 2005, 08:54 AM
- - The Iron Goat   Sounds like a good place to start at. Best of luc...   Oct 12 2005, 09:13 AM
- - badbu68   Sounds like a plan. Boosted motors probably like ...   Oct 12 2005, 09:45 AM
- - turbohcar   Thanks Goat. And yes Badbu, they do like colder t...   Oct 12 2005, 09:56 AM
- - jvb6806   advance has thermostats in stock... why are you wa...   Oct 13 2005, 12:05 AM
- - RT/TSI   If its not oil and comes from advance it would sta...   Oct 13 2005, 05:18 AM
- - SCCA Stang   QUOTE (badbu68 @ Oct 12 2005, 07:55 AM)If it...   Oct 13 2005, 05:21 AM
- - badbu68   yup   Oct 13 2005, 05:45 AM
- - SCCA Stang   QUOTE (RT/TSI @ Oct 13 2005, 05:18 AM)If its ...   Oct 13 2005, 05:49 AM
- - turbohcar   QUOTE (jvb6806 @ Oct 13 2005, 12:05 AM)advanc...   Oct 13 2005, 02:41 PM
- - BudmannG   All you have to do to burp the system is: Fill wit...   Oct 13 2005, 02:48 PM
- - turbohcar   Thanks! I've heard of burping your baby, ...   Oct 13 2005, 03:06 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 13 2005, 04:06 PM)Than...   Oct 13 2005, 04:30 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   RE: 1st Night Out: Terrible!   Oct 13 2005, 05:26 PM
- - turbohcar   I can just see Dan in his Halloween costume....gia...   Oct 13 2005, 07:58 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   Awesome! sounds like you found your problem.....   Oct 13 2005, 08:12 PM
- - turbohcar   Well, considering 180*F is 82*C, I am a little par...   Oct 13 2005, 08:16 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   keep in mind that the stat will open at 180, but t...   Oct 13 2005, 08:22 PM
- - BudmannG   Is your stock gauge running straight up and down? ...   Oct 13 2005, 08:31 PM
- - SCCA Stang   QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 13 2005, 02:48 PM)All y...   Oct 14 2005, 04:21 AM
- - turbohcar   Radiator is an aluminum 2G unit rigged up to work ...   Oct 14 2005, 07:12 AM
- - The Iron Goat   Perhaps the radiator could use a good flushing? Y...   Oct 14 2005, 07:42 AM
- - turbohcar   Most definitely the headgasket now. I drove it ho...   Oct 14 2005, 08:37 AM
- - turbohcar   Well, believe it or not, I've got MORE bad new...   Oct 15 2005, 11:39 AM
- - BudmannG   Man I'm sorry to here about your luck. Mine is...   Oct 15 2005, 12:20 PM
- - turbohcar   Thanks Budmann. I'm more concerned with his c...   Oct 15 2005, 12:29 PM
- - turbohcar   Here's Rob's diagnosis. What do you guys ...   Oct 15 2005, 01:13 PM
- - The Iron Goat   Man, that SUCKS, bro. I feel for you with this. ...   Oct 15 2005, 02:02 PM
- - turbohcar   Well, I couldn't identify a leak before the co...   Oct 15 2005, 02:25 PM
- - black92_tsi_awd   Did you check the heater hoses between the engine ...   Oct 15 2005, 05:45 PM
- - 90GSX   QUOTE Did you check the heater hoses between the e...   Oct 16 2005, 08:33 AM
- - turbohcar   Well, I would think that this is a problem but, th...   Oct 16 2005, 08:57 AM
- - badbu68   I had the same problem a while back, overheating, ...   Oct 16 2005, 10:12 AM
- - turbohcar   Interesting point badbu, I'll make sure we che...   Oct 17 2005, 11:40 AM
- - The Iron Goat   Recalling what Rob discovered inside the engine -w...   Oct 17 2005, 03:30 PM
- - turbohcar   GRRRRrrrrrrr.....the problems continue. Well, Rob...   Oct 27 2005, 11:47 AM
- - turbohcar   BTW, I put a new aftermarket Modine radiator with ...   Oct 27 2005, 12:04 PM
- - turbohcar   And my logger still won't connect to the ECU...   Oct 27 2005, 12:29 PM
- - BudmannG   I got an extra one we can use this weekend if you ...   Oct 27 2005, 01:55 PM
- - turbohcar   Well, I did reset the logger before I put the new ...   Oct 27 2005, 02:24 PM
- - BudmannG   QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 27 2005, 03:24 PM)I pr...   Oct 27 2005, 02:58 PM
- - turbohcar   Hmmmmmm.....Might have to take you up on that one....   Oct 27 2005, 03:04 PM
- - BudmannG   QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 27 2005, 04:04 PM)Hmmm...   Oct 27 2005, 03:19 PM
- - BudmannG   And yes it for the Palm IIIc.   Oct 27 2005, 03:21 PM
- - turbohcar   It is connected to the right pins, I made sure of ...   Oct 27 2005, 03:25 PM
- - BudmannG   Pm me with your address, I will get it to you one ...   Oct 27 2005, 03:35 PM
- - Temp_Me96   Pressure test the system if it drops then you have...   Oct 27 2005, 03:46 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   Tried that... the autozone rental unit didn't ...   Oct 27 2005, 04:03 PM
- - The Iron Goat   I also have spares of all the sensors on the t-sta...   Oct 27 2005, 04:49 PM
- - turbohcar   Fuses will be checked tonight. I think it's j...   Oct 28 2005, 02:40 PM
- - BudmannG   That's the way they show it here- http://vfaq....   Oct 28 2005, 02:46 PM
- - BudmannG   How old is your radiator cap? It could be bad also...   Oct 28 2005, 02:50 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   Actually, I pulled it out and checked that also......   Oct 28 2005, 02:50 PM
- - turbohcar   Radiator cap is brand new.   Oct 28 2005, 02:54 PM
- - BudmannG   If you need anything for the a/c call me. I stripp...   Oct 28 2005, 02:58 PM
- - turbohcar   Could it possibly be that the thermostat didn...   Oct 28 2005, 02:58 PM
- - turbohcar   Girlfriend would probably appreciate it but, it wo...   Oct 28 2005, 03:01 PM
- - BudmannG   QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 28 2005, 03:58 PM)Coul...   Oct 28 2005, 03:01 PM
- - turbohcar   Thanks I think. I'll try swapping it out ton...   Oct 28 2005, 03:23 PM
- - turbohcar   Well, no blown fuses at all. Checked all of them....   Oct 28 2005, 07:15 PM
- - BudmannG   Did you do a couple of 'wot' before you de...   Oct 28 2005, 07:27 PM
- - turbohcar   HG is exactly the same one that Slowboy sells on t...   Oct 28 2005, 07:51 PM
- - turbohcar   This one http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id...   Oct 28 2005, 08:10 PM
- - turbohcar   Don't know. It was decked anyway though, so t...   Oct 28 2005, 10:36 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   It's not loosing coolant anymore, right? Just...   Oct 29 2005, 07:29 AM
- - BudmannG   And the logger and wires should be there today. Du...   Oct 29 2005, 07:38 AM
- - turbohcar   No, it's not loosing coolant anymore, just run...   Oct 29 2005, 09:38 AM
- - turbohcar   Well, everything started out great. I started the...   Oct 29 2005, 03:36 PM
- - turbohcar   Quick question, when I tried burping the car, it a...   Oct 29 2005, 06:40 PM
- - BudmannG   Yes it well flow over and just let it run through ...   Oct 29 2005, 07:25 PM
- - AWD DSM 1   QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 29 2005, 08:25 PM)Yes i...   Oct 29 2005, 07:30 PM
- - turbohcar   I'll try that tomorrow then. Thanks   Oct 29 2005, 11:06 PM
- - turbohcar   Well, now that I've got a logger that's wo...   Oct 31 2005, 06:59 PM
- - black92_tsi_awd   Temp sounds a little high but not too bad. Mine r...   Oct 31 2005, 07:23 PM
- - 90GSX   what program are you logging with? if your using ...   Oct 31 2005, 07:30 PM
- - turbohcar   And the 02voltage is as it's read off of the F...   Oct 31 2005, 07:31 PM
- - BudmannG   I'm glad to see you have it working. Was it ju...   Oct 31 2005, 08:10 PM
- - turbohcar   Well, last night it was just the cord but, this mo...   Nov 1 2005, 08:07 AM
- - BudmannG   Try shutting down the graph while you log. You are...   Nov 1 2005, 08:19 AM
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