Oct 10 2005, 10:17 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Tonight was the first night for the Talon. The first night on insurance and plates in the last three years. Everything started out right. I drove to town (about 12miles) to the nearest gas station where I met a friend of mine. I put some premium in her and discuss how happy I am that nothing has happened....yet. Rolling back down the main strip after filling up we make the long cruise to our get-off point. We came to several reds but this one was unlike any other. This one, the beast in me came out. I couldn't help it. The car wanted more than just cruising, and my right foot couldn't help but bury itself into the firewall. As quoted from my friend, "That thing shat and took off like a Tomahawk missle!" Cruising through town (another 4 miles) we got to the turn off and made our way to our destination. Just before we got to our destination (11 miles from town) the car started overheating. Not just "it's overheating a little bit it'll be fine till I get it looked at". NO, it's just humming along just fine, the temp gauge is reading straight up and down and then all the sudden it starts climbing like crazy. Logger showed it got up to 111*C (or 232*F) when it had been running at 96.8*C (206*F). I didn't know until just now that it was running that hot regularly but it didn't show any signs of overheating. I had the fans running all night as a precaution.
It has done this one other time though. Almost a year ago it overheated when I blew a heatercore hose. It climbed to the mark just before the red on the temp gauge and I nursed it home without going into the red to fix it. At this point I'm tired. I've been wrenching all night and I want to go to bed. If any of you have any suggestions feel free. The cooling system is as follows: 2G aluminum radiator brand new OEM Mitsu radiator cap new thermostat with the rebuild new (Felpro) headgasket with the rebuild 1G fans running full time new coolant Like I said, suggestions will be taken. Right now I'm just trying to pick my pride up off the ground. AWD DSM 1 you have a PM. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Oct 15 2005, 11:39 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Well, believe it or not, I've got MORE bad news for you boys. Drove it to work yesterday and for some reason, the logger wasn't working. At first it wouldn't show any values, like it wasn't connecting. Then, it showed some values but they weren't correct. Like coolant temp would jump from -72*C to 59*C and it was 50*F outside. All the values were doing it, not just coolant temp. So, I checked all the connections, they were all correct. After that, I just shut it off, there was no point in it. Got to work, checked the coolant, it was a bit low. Filled it up, ran all my errands in town and parked it. After work I went to meet my friend that was going to follow me to Robs and I noticed it was a bit low before we left so, I filled it up again. As a precaution, I bought a 2 Liter of Dr. Pepper, drank some, and poured the rest out to be used as a water container just in case along with an empty Gatorade bottle. We headed out on I74 from the north side of Bloomington off of Veterans and headed towards Goodfield. Everything was fine until 6.5 miles from Goodfield. It started to overheat quite a bit. Not as bad as it had the first time but enough that I knew I had to pull over. I carefully (Don't try this one at home kids!) removed the radiator cap with a rag covering it to prevent any splash. I turned it to the first click and it let off a huge cloud of steam, second click blew the radiator cap into the ditch and spit water all over the front of the car. There was little to no water in the car. In fact, it took the entire 2.5 Liters I had in the car and that didn't even fill it up. At this point, I called Rob. He was EXTREMELY nice and drove out to pick us up in his pick'emup truck. We then drove the entire 20-30 miles back to my house to pick up the two wheel dolly. Then it was all the way back to the car, helping to disconnect the main driveshaft, hang it up with a bungee cord and push it onto the dolly and strap it down. Needless to say, he went wayyy out of his way to help even though his wife wasn't really happy about it. Tom and I followed Rob to the gas station at Goodfield so that I could fill up his truck and check the straps again. That's when we noticed the front bumper on the Talon. Evidently, the car sits low enough to scrape on the sides of the dolly's ramps. In fact, there was evidence of the three or four times we tried to push it up the ramps. So now there's three gashes in the bumper on either side.
So now my car's broke, the front bumper is torn off, my back hurts from laying on the asphalt next to semi-tractor trailers doing 65mph three feet from my head, I've got a deep cut on my right finger and I swallowed my left contact last night. To try to make things better, Tom and I drove to Peoria to find a straight patch of asphalt and someone to drive next to us. We drove through campus, through Pekin, Creve Cour, all over Peoria and there was nothing to be found except for a Mustang GT that just liked the to hear the sound of his own exhaust. Not only that, but while in Pekin near the waterfront, he ran over someting. That something happened to be a small crowbar. When he went over it the bar kicked up against the side of the car on the drivers door. We got out and inspected it a bit only finding a small chip out of the top coat of paint, no big deal. Upon further inspection this morning, there's a 2inch long gash about a 1/4 inch deep just under his drivers side mirror. It wouldn't be as bad if he wasn't driving his (darn near mint condition) 86 Buick Regal T-Type, which is the same as a Grand National. Last night sucked. I guess it can only get better. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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turbohcar 1st Night Out: Terrible! Oct 10 2005, 10:17 PM
jvb6806 230 degrees isn't really a big deal. did the t... Oct 10 2005, 11:55 PM
BudmannG When you filled the radiator did you make sure all... Oct 11 2005, 07:48 AM
turbohcar Fans were on full time.
The thermostat (I'm... Oct 11 2005, 08:25 AM
wntsom4 Sounds like the thermostat is sticking, that's... Oct 11 2005, 08:54 AM
turbohcar OE Mitsu headgasket and thermostat will be here on... Oct 11 2005, 10:37 AM
awd4kicks Brett, if your going to change the head gasket I w... Oct 11 2005, 10:47 AM
turbohcar Well, when I had the engine rebuilt, I couldn... Oct 11 2005, 11:29 AM
turbohcar Mitsu ordered the correct gasket. I just confirme... Oct 11 2005, 12:26 PM
awd4kicks It would be great if Felpro got that straightened ... Oct 11 2005, 01:10 PM
turbohcar I just ordered some ARP's through Slowboy as w... Oct 11 2005, 01:34 PM
badbu68 Are you going to resurface the head? Oct 11 2005, 02:15 PM
turbohcar If it's a headgasket, YES of course. More tha... Oct 11 2005, 02:18 PM
turbohcar BTW, what coolant temperature do your DSMs usually... Oct 11 2005, 03:01 PM
90GSX For future reference you can go here and get one. ... Oct 11 2005, 04:02 PM
AWD DSM 1 Last head gasket I got was around $50... Mac... Oct 11 2005, 04:05 PM
jvb6806 depending on what thermostat you put in that is th... Oct 11 2005, 09:17 PM
turbohcar My price on the OE Mitsu headgasket 4-layer steel ... Oct 11 2005, 09:21 PM
jvb6806 i would bet money that you aren't really deton... Oct 11 2005, 11:52 PM
turbohcar I didn't know Autozone had a 180* thermostat, ... Oct 12 2005, 07:29 AM
badbu68 If it's at idle and cold, your thermastat shou... Oct 12 2005, 07:55 AM
turbohcar ^Good point. I did not know that about thermostat... Oct 12 2005, 08:54 AM
The Iron Goat Sounds like a good place to start at. Best of luc... Oct 12 2005, 09:13 AM
badbu68 Sounds like a plan.
Boosted motors probably like ... Oct 12 2005, 09:45 AM
turbohcar Thanks Goat. And yes Badbu, they do like colder t... Oct 12 2005, 09:56 AM
jvb6806 advance has thermostats in stock... why are you wa... Oct 13 2005, 12:05 AM
RT/TSI If its not oil and comes from advance it would sta... Oct 13 2005, 05:18 AM
SCCA Stang QUOTE (badbu68 @ Oct 12 2005, 07:55 AM)If it... Oct 13 2005, 05:21 AM
badbu68 yup Oct 13 2005, 05:45 AM
SCCA Stang QUOTE (RT/TSI @ Oct 13 2005, 05:18 AM)If its ... Oct 13 2005, 05:49 AM
turbohcar QUOTE (jvb6806 @ Oct 13 2005, 12:05 AM)advanc... Oct 13 2005, 02:41 PM
BudmannG All you have to do to burp the system is:
Fill wit... Oct 13 2005, 02:48 PM
turbohcar Thanks! I've heard of burping your baby, ... Oct 13 2005, 03:06 PM
AWD DSM 1 QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 13 2005, 04:06 PM)Than... Oct 13 2005, 04:30 PM
AWD DSM 1 RE: 1st Night Out: Terrible! Oct 13 2005, 05:26 PM
turbohcar I can just see Dan in his Halloween costume....gia... Oct 13 2005, 07:58 PM
AWD DSM 1 Awesome! sounds like you found your problem..... Oct 13 2005, 08:12 PM
turbohcar Well, considering 180*F is 82*C, I am a little par... Oct 13 2005, 08:16 PM
AWD DSM 1 keep in mind that the stat will open at 180, but t... Oct 13 2005, 08:22 PM
BudmannG Is your stock gauge running straight up and down? ... Oct 13 2005, 08:31 PM
SCCA Stang QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 13 2005, 02:48 PM)All y... Oct 14 2005, 04:21 AM
turbohcar Radiator is an aluminum 2G unit rigged up to work ... Oct 14 2005, 07:12 AM
The Iron Goat Perhaps the radiator could use a good flushing? Y... Oct 14 2005, 07:42 AM
turbohcar Most definitely the headgasket now. I drove it ho... Oct 14 2005, 08:37 AM
BudmannG Man I'm sorry to here about your luck. Mine is... Oct 15 2005, 12:20 PM
turbohcar Thanks Budmann. I'm more concerned with his c... Oct 15 2005, 12:29 PM
turbohcar Here's Rob's diagnosis. What do you guys ... Oct 15 2005, 01:13 PM
The Iron Goat Man, that SUCKS, bro. I feel for you with this. ... Oct 15 2005, 02:02 PM
turbohcar Well, I couldn't identify a leak before the co... Oct 15 2005, 02:25 PM
black92_tsi_awd Did you check the heater hoses between the engine ... Oct 15 2005, 05:45 PM
90GSX QUOTE Did you check the heater hoses between the e... Oct 16 2005, 08:33 AM
turbohcar Well, I would think that this is a problem but, th... Oct 16 2005, 08:57 AM
badbu68 I had the same problem a while back, overheating, ... Oct 16 2005, 10:12 AM
turbohcar Interesting point badbu, I'll make sure we che... Oct 17 2005, 11:40 AM
The Iron Goat Recalling what Rob discovered inside the engine -w... Oct 17 2005, 03:30 PM
turbohcar GRRRRrrrrrrr.....the problems continue. Well, Rob... Oct 27 2005, 11:47 AM
turbohcar BTW, I put a new aftermarket Modine radiator with ... Oct 27 2005, 12:04 PM
turbohcar And my logger still won't connect to the ECU... Oct 27 2005, 12:29 PM
BudmannG I got an extra one we can use this weekend if you ... Oct 27 2005, 01:55 PM
turbohcar Well, I did reset the logger before I put the new ... Oct 27 2005, 02:24 PM
BudmannG QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 27 2005, 03:24 PM)I pr... Oct 27 2005, 02:58 PM
turbohcar Hmmmmmm.....Might have to take you up on that one.... Oct 27 2005, 03:04 PM
BudmannG QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 27 2005, 04:04 PM)Hmmm... Oct 27 2005, 03:19 PM
BudmannG And yes it for the Palm IIIc. Oct 27 2005, 03:21 PM
turbohcar It is connected to the right pins, I made sure of ... Oct 27 2005, 03:25 PM
BudmannG Pm me with your address, I will get it to you one ... Oct 27 2005, 03:35 PM
Temp_Me96 Pressure test the system if it drops then you have... Oct 27 2005, 03:46 PM
AWD DSM 1 Tried that... the autozone rental unit didn't ... Oct 27 2005, 04:03 PM
The Iron Goat I also have spares of all the sensors on the t-sta... Oct 27 2005, 04:49 PM
turbohcar Fuses will be checked tonight. I think it's j... Oct 28 2005, 02:40 PM
BudmannG That's the way they show it here- http://vfaq.... Oct 28 2005, 02:46 PM
BudmannG How old is your radiator cap? It could be bad also... Oct 28 2005, 02:50 PM
AWD DSM 1 Actually, I pulled it out and checked that also...... Oct 28 2005, 02:50 PM
turbohcar Radiator cap is brand new. Oct 28 2005, 02:54 PM
BudmannG If you need anything for the a/c call me. I stripp... Oct 28 2005, 02:58 PM
turbohcar Could it possibly be that the thermostat didn... Oct 28 2005, 02:58 PM
turbohcar Girlfriend would probably appreciate it but, it wo... Oct 28 2005, 03:01 PM
BudmannG QUOTE (turbohcar @ Oct 28 2005, 03:58 PM)Coul... Oct 28 2005, 03:01 PM
turbohcar Thanks I think. I'll try swapping it out ton... Oct 28 2005, 03:23 PM
turbohcar Well, no blown fuses at all. Checked all of them.... Oct 28 2005, 07:15 PM
BudmannG Did you do a couple of 'wot' before you de... Oct 28 2005, 07:27 PM
turbohcar HG is exactly the same one that Slowboy sells on t... Oct 28 2005, 07:51 PM
turbohcar This one
http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id... Oct 28 2005, 08:10 PM
turbohcar Don't know. It was decked anyway though, so t... Oct 28 2005, 10:36 PM
AWD DSM 1 It's not loosing coolant anymore, right? Just... Oct 29 2005, 07:29 AM
BudmannG And the logger and wires should be there today. Du... Oct 29 2005, 07:38 AM
turbohcar No, it's not loosing coolant anymore, just run... Oct 29 2005, 09:38 AM
turbohcar Well, everything started out great. I started the... Oct 29 2005, 03:36 PM
turbohcar Quick question, when I tried burping the car, it a... Oct 29 2005, 06:40 PM
BudmannG Yes it well flow over and just let it run through ... Oct 29 2005, 07:25 PM
AWD DSM 1 QUOTE (BudmannG @ Oct 29 2005, 08:25 PM)Yes i... Oct 29 2005, 07:30 PM
turbohcar I'll try that tomorrow then. Thanks Oct 29 2005, 11:06 PM
turbohcar Well, now that I've got a logger that's wo... Oct 31 2005, 06:59 PM
black92_tsi_awd Temp sounds a little high but not too bad. Mine r... Oct 31 2005, 07:23 PM
90GSX what program are you logging with? if your using ... Oct 31 2005, 07:30 PM
turbohcar And the 02voltage is as it's read off of the F... Oct 31 2005, 07:31 PM
BudmannG I'm glad to see you have it working. Was it ju... Oct 31 2005, 08:10 PM
turbohcar Well, last night it was just the cord but, this mo... Nov 1 2005, 08:07 AM
BudmannG Try shutting down the graph while you log. You are... Nov 1 2005, 08:19 AM![]() ![]() |
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