Nov 26 2005, 06:39 PM
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Well im experiencing knock and im not sure whats causing it. My car has been really doggy of late, so i hooked my logger back up to see what was going on. Well when i hit the gas, even just barely, it jumps up to 43 counts of knock, even when im not boosting yet, through every gear and cruising. I have replaced the knock sensor, and i do have lifter tick when i start up, that goes away after the car runs a couple seconds. I dont think my engine is knocking, im imagining if it were, it would definatly be audible. i did a boost leak test, and logged my car when i put my boost controller on (14psi) and everything was fine, so i guess i could do another and see if that could be causing it. The wierd thing is after i drive it for a while, the knock would just stop, and it would run fine again, then start reading knock, then stop. im kinda stumped on getting it to quit. any ideas? thanks
-------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
--------------------------------------- 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX- Traded in, buhbye little buddy 1994 Plymouth Laser- 1.8 auto. 1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse- GS auto. RIP 12/5/02 |
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Nov 27 2005, 05:09 PM
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![]() Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Granite City, IL Member No.: 128 |
there was a similar post at gatewaydsm and this is why I told him:
ahhh, here goes. Check your cam angle sensor, knock sensor, lifters for tick, any loose bolts on the engine (especially the back), motor mounts (yes gabor, if theyre bad they can cause phantom knock) and ECU. If thats not it then check your fuel system and if you dont already have one, buy an EGT gauge and probe and watch what your temps are when you have high knock. Also, get it tuned. If the car is running good and there are no noticable knocking sounds coming from the engine then you most likely dont have real knock. 43 counts of real knock would be absofuckinglutely devistating to your engine and you'd have almost no power whatsoever. Odds are its phantom knock. Best way to tell, cruise with the rpms at 3500 in 3rd gear and punch it. If the knock stays low, its probably phantom knock (due to the ecu not seeing the knock while its in the lower rpm's, which is when the ecu is most sensitive to knock) The ECU reads real knock far more accurately at the higher rpms and ignores alot of the phantom knock. This is why you want to do everything possible before you get the knock elimator in your ECU (which is the final step). If you do have real knock and you get the knock eliminator then your ecu will ignore alot of the low rpm knock becuase it will be programmed not to read knock until 3200 rpm's which is when it becomes less sensitive. And if it is real knock then your screwed because your ECU will not pull timing at all and your engine is toast. phew. . . -------------------- Drew Taylor; 1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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