16g turbo or something else?, damn exhaust Options

[ncgalant]

16g evo3. what kind a hp can one expect for an average tuner?

I've seen 3 or 4 people put down 260-280whp on pump with that turbo. It seems to be nice for the price.

[turbohcar]

check with KOU, he told me recently that he could accquire new T3/T4's for 600 which is probably just as much as you would pay for that 16G. I wouldn't be afraid to say that you would easily clear 300 horse with one of those setups. Problem being paying for the supporting mods.

[natedogg]

300 whp is well within the realm of possibility with a 16g on pump gas. You'll probably need a fmic and some fuel modifications to pull it off though.

[awdnot2]

Big 16g would get you going, but you kind of need an external gate. I ran a small 16g with only mild porting and clipped to 12.50@110 with a conquest FMIC. I swapped in a 14b when the 16g crapped out and ran 12.72@105. A 16g IMO is just stock replacement when a 14b goes if you don't want to buy a used one. Small 16g's are available for $465. 300 hp shouldn't be a problem.

There is a BR475 if you want to with the other supporting mods but it is pricy in comparison.

[ncgalant]

not shabby, but not quite what I want... 400-500whp and a lot of torque... though 300awhp would suffice I suppose.

If torque is what your wanting, build a 6 bolt 2.4. That 400whp will be matched with 450 ft/lbs or torque. Lots of fun if you want to break things

The one guy on our 4g64 board is runnin a evo 16g on his spider and went 260whp/330 ftlbs of torque.

[turbohcar]

Try this for comparison of flow rates. It doesn't have any of the information about Buschur turbos but has lots of others. I can't be sure of how reliable this information is because I found it through a search engine but it seems to be legit.

http://devnulled.com/archives/dsms.php

[awdnot2]

The BR475 is designed as an alternative to the 20G. It comes on early around 3200 rpms. Supposedly it spools faster than a 20G. With the quick spool you sacrafice some top end power thus the BR475 name. The low end torque should be something else. So the spool is significantly faster than a BR500. THe power ratings are close but they are two different animals. The BR475 should be a lot of fun on the street as told to me by the guys in Ohio.

[ICGerms]

I've still got my ported Big16g for sale, if you're interested. 'Bout 4000 miles on it, no shaft play or smoke. I'd like to get $400 for it.