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May 5 2004, 01:10 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
Alright guys, I know this is gonna sound like a newbie question but what should I go with as far as a blow off valve???
this is for my 1G GSX with a hard upper intercooler pipe and its getting a EVO III 16G turbo, I am checking out HKS suppersequential and a few others, but I still can't decide. I want to make sure I get good performance but I also want some "pppssshhh" sound too, and I want to get one that I can just bolt on (no or little fabrication). what do I go with??? -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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May 5 2004, 01:20 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
It's probably not the answer you're looking for but the stock 1G BOV is really probably your best choice there.
If you really want some "pshhht" though, we'll be coming out with one in about a month (samples due here for testing in a couple of weeks.) If you're running a MAFT blow through, you'll be surprised at how well your 1G BOV should suit your needs though. -------------------- |
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May 5 2004, 01:26 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE If you're running a MAFT blow through, you'll be surprised at how well your 1G BOV should suit your needs though. what is the best way to get my hands on one of these and how much will it cost??? -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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May 5 2004, 01:38 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
ditto-
I'm sure KOU will do a write up when the bov comes in and post a thread with video/sound etc. -------------------- game over.
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May 5 2004, 01:44 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ May 5 2004, 01:26 PM) QUOTE If you're running a MAFT blow through, you'll be surprised at how well your 1G BOV should suit your needs though. what is the best way to get my hands on one of these and how much will it cost??? Dude, you've got one on your car!! -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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May 5 2004, 01:45 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
evidently I dont know what I am taking about when it comes to this, nor do I know what you guys are talking about please elaborate.
-------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
------------------------------------------------------- Double Decker spoilers are uber ricerlicious!!!! |
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May 5 2004, 01:51 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 658 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Pekin Member No.: 181 |
ok right now your venting your BOV back into the intake. what kou is saying is that you get a gm mas translator and run it in a blowthrough set-up thus allowing you to vent to atmosphere. this would make for a much louder sound.
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May 5 2004, 01:52 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ May 5 2004, 01:26 PM) QUOTE If you're running a MAFT blow through, you'll be surprised at how well your 1G BOV should suit your needs though. what is the best way to get my hands on one of these and how much will it cost??? Dude, you've got one on your car!! I still have the "hacked" stock 1G MAF, draw through style -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
------------------------------------------------------- Double Decker spoilers are uber ricerlicious!!!! |
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May 5 2004, 01:56 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
i need to do some more reading on the blow thru/dump setup. but if you want a cool sound, that's the way to go. It sounds like satan when you get on it. I could be wrong here, but i think that the external dump also helps with boost creep?
-------------------- game over.
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May 5 2004, 01:57 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 658 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Pekin Member No.: 181 |
QUOTE (xian 1g @ May 5 2004, 01:56 PM) i need to do some more reading on the blow thru/dump setup. but if you want a cool sound, that's the way to go. It sounds like satan when you get on it. I could be wrong here, but i think that the external dump also helps with boost creep? external exhaust o2 dump yes. external dump of BOV only a cooler sound. |
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May 5 2004, 02:15 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE If you're running a MAFT blow through, you'll be surprised at how well your 1G BOV should suit your needs though. Travis, are u talking about a GM MAF translator setup??? -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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May 5 2004, 02:23 PM
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![]() Info Seeker ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 285 |
yes, when you setup a MAF-translator, you can get the 'blow-through' setup that actually goes in between your upper IC pipe and throttle body (check me if im wrong) and that would allow you to vent your BOV to the atmosphere (without idle problems) instead of recirculating that air back into the intake, which would make your BOV sound MUCH louder, i've heard a crushed 1g BOV that's vented to atmosphere and it sounded somewhat like my Greddy Type-S BOV. either way, it sounds mean
-------------------- Out getting a new exhaust belt and some headlight fluid, be back
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May 5 2004, 02:31 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 774 Joined: 28-October 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 32 |
I'm certain that at least three different people are talking about three different things.
GSXR80: If you set your car up for a BOV that vents to the atmosphere, the stock one is actually pretty loud. It gets muffled by the recirculation tube. You can actually make it louder with a hard intake pipe on the MAS. The sound gets muffled less. XIAN: Atmospheric vent bov = totally different than external dump o2 housing. Justin: You're incredible, as always. -------------------- 2009 Scion Tc
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May 5 2004, 02:37 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
I was refering to the BOV... IMHO, there is no reason to spend $$ on something that won't work any better than what you've got. Keep the 1g BOV, and use the money on a MAFT instead...
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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May 5 2004, 04:18 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
I think some of you hve misinterpreted what I want, I am looking at a BOV as a performance gain and if I get a "pssshhhtt" sound then great (a bonus), but performance is number 1. but if I will gain more from a GM MAF & translator, then I guess I should spend my $$$ there instead. thanks for the input!!!
If anyone has a hook up on an inexpensive way to pick up a GM MAF & translator then please help me out, thanks in advance!!! -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
------------------------------------------------------- Double Decker spoilers are uber ricerlicious!!!! |
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May 5 2004, 09:59 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
thanks justin,
silly me, needs to sleep more. I should have known that one, as soon as you said it i was like, 'oh yeah, dumbass'... At the same time a month and a half ago all i could do was turn the ignition. Lot of terms and theories thrown at me since. -------------------- game over.
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May 5 2004, 11:16 PM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 14-March 04 From: peoria Member No.: 258 |
so is there any downfall to having a blow through MAFT setup....cause right now mine is setup as a draw through....
-------------------- Stupid White Kid Racing
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May 6 2004, 02:10 AM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 9-July 03 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 151 |
LOL somehow I am trashed as hell and still seem to be one of two people who read all this right. And on top of that, I am a complete motard when it comes to mechanics.
On a first gen BOV, anything that you can get stock is about as good as you are going to get on the street. They are well designed, and good up to like high 20s-low 30s PSI. The only BOV that I can think of that tested better than the stock 1G BOV is the Greddy Type-S Unit. It has a higher boost spike than the 1G, and holds it longer as well. However, under about 320hp and 25PSI, I am not sure how much this would matter. In the end, my advice is simply to stick with the setup you have. When you are looking for 10s, then start looking around elsewhere. |
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