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May 25 2004, 10:27 AM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
Well Ive got myself an SAFC II but I dont know much about them. The install looks easy as pie, but my question is if I can hook it up then run the stock A\F ratios until I can get it tuned? Or do I have to put some sort of values in there to make it run right? TIA guys!
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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May 25 2004, 10:58 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I'm pretty sure you can install it and run 0% correction across the RPM range and it will run like its not even there.
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May 25 2004, 11:04 AM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
Yes, leave it at 0 until you can tune it. Zero is no compensation and will make it strait through.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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May 25 2004, 11:07 AM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
Awesome! Thats what I figured, but I would rather be safe than sorry. Thanks guys!
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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May 25 2004, 12:57 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
I read somewhere that you have to set it to a 2cyl for DSM's because they have 2 cyls per coil? Is this correct? Thanks again guys!
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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May 25 2004, 03:42 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
no, go with 4. It works fine running off of the tach signal. Also make sure you set the sensor type to karman. Like 90% of people forget to do that and wonder why it doesn't work.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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May 25 2004, 07:21 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 25 2004, 09:42 PM) no, go with 4. It works fine running off of the tach signal. Also make sure you set the sensor type to karman. Like 90% of people forget to do that and wonder why it doesn't work. I set it to Karman and set it to 4cyl. But when I come to the setting the knocking signal step I get nothing. It says to rev the car to a certain RPM (1300 then 3200) and push the center knob the the right to correct the knock for each RPM level. I push the knob to the right an nothing happens. Also when I go to the monitor- 1 chanel- REV and push on the gas I get no RPM reading at all. Does this mean I'm not reading any RPM's?? I'm assming this may be hy I cant set the knock. -------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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May 25 2004, 09:38 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
the knock doesn't work on DSM knock sensors. Or so I've been told.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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May 25 2004, 10:19 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 26 2004, 03:38 AM) the knock doesn't work on DSM knock sensors. Or so I've been told. It doesnt work on an ODBII(95.5-up) car, but ODBI it does. I just went through the wiring diagram and compared Apexi's to the one on the VFAQ. Apexi has the RPM wire labled wrong. Apexi has it labled as pin #54 (Power transistor for #1 and #4 coils) when it should be labled pin #21 (crank angle senson (RPM.)) Just for future reference! -------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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May 25 2004, 10:33 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
thanks for the info. I guess that's why you were thinking it had to be on 2 cyl.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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May 26 2004, 02:29 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
Troy. What pinout did you tap your RPM (green wire on SAFC II) into on the ECU? I tried the one that APEXI said to use and the one that the wiring diagram said was the RPM signal and I get nothing!! I cant do anything without RPM signals. I got it used so I hope that I didnt get ripped. Thanks guys!
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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May 26 2004, 04:03 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
Well this is going to sound dumb, but I took the sheathe off of the SAFC II harness and the RPM signal wire was cut in half. I patched it up and hooked it back to the wire that APEXi said to use, but now I only get half of the RPMs that my tach reads. Should I set it to 2cyl or just hook it back to the actual CAS (RPM) wire? Thanks again guys!
-------------------- 2003 Mustang GT
2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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