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Sep 21 2004, 11:12 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
I currently have a supra fuel pump. I am underneath the impression that the supra fuel pump actually out flows the walboro255hp, at lower psi settings, while somewhere around 30psi boost the walboro255hp starts to out flow the supra.
is this information correct? also, would the supra be large enough to support a large turbo, such as the fp30's? if not, what would be recommended? thanks in advance. -------------------- game over.
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Sep 21 2004, 11:38 AM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/ecltechtips.htm
Their numbers show the supra outflowing the walboro all the way through. -------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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Sep 21 2004, 11:42 AM
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![]() Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 22-October 03 From: Pekin, IL Member No.: 191 |
i'm not really sure about the supra fuel pump. i know buschur recomends a cozmo fuel pump for anything bigger than a 20g @ 18psi or more, which the cozmo is 304lph @ 43psi vs. the walbro 255lph @43psi. i think the supra is a cheap upgrade like the 3000gt vr4 fuel pump.
BUT..... i could be talking out of my pooper again!! travis?? kris?? nate?? marcus?? -------------------- famous last words.... " hey guys, WATCH THIS!!!!!" followed shortly thereafter by the the phrase, "and then the cops showed up"
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Sep 21 2004, 01:23 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
The Walbro only outflows the Supra pump at 80psi+, and neither pump is very useful at that pressure.
http://www.stealth316.com/2-fuelpumpguide.htm A rewired Supra pump will take 4 720cc injectors to 30psi of boost assuming an adjustable regulator set at 43psi with a fair amount of headroom. -------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Sep 21 2004, 01:32 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
QUOTE (SPOOLED91 @ Sep 21 2004, 05:42 PM) i think the supra is a cheap upgrade like the 3000gt vr4 fuel pump. Actually Supra pumps tend to fetch a fair premium over the Walboro in terms of price (new for ~$200 last I checked). I think flow is rated at around 310lph or so. The comparison I remember reading had the Walboro catching up at extremely high pressures. The Supra pump tends to have less fuel pressure issues and doesn't outright requite an AFPR like the 255 does. But, most will still reccomend an AFPR for careful tuning anyways. Overall, I think they're better pumps than the Walboro 255, IMHO. -------------------- |
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Sep 21 2004, 01:36 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (KOU In3 @ Sep 21 2004, 07:32 PM) The Supra pump tends to have less fuel pressure issues and doesn't outright requite an AFPR like the 255 does. This is an untrue statement that really needs to die off. They both should really have an AFPR on a 1G. -------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Sep 21 2004, 02:22 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
once again thanks for all of the help and for clearing up my information for me...
so correct me if i'm wrong.. but you are saying I should be good to run relatively deep into a fp30 turbo, before i would need to go cozmo? <my supra fuel pump is re-wired> and also, is there a prefrence anyone has for fuel pressure regulators? I know that buschur sells a kit with a gauge? money's no issue, is it really worth it for the kit with the gauge? thanks again for all the help! I appreciate it. -------------------- game over.
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Sep 21 2004, 02:32 PM
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![]() Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 22-October 03 From: Pekin, IL Member No.: 191 |
uhhhh.........someone help me out here...........
who sells the afpr that bolts directly onto the stock fuel rail?? it's $149 -------------------- famous last words.... " hey guys, WATCH THIS!!!!!" followed shortly thereafter by the the phrase, "and then the cops showed up"
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Sep 21 2004, 02:43 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 436 Joined: 21-September 02 From: Urbana Member No.: 15 |
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Sep 21 2004, 03:06 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (SPOOLED91 @ Sep 21 2004, 08:32 PM) uhhhh.........someone help me out here........... who sells the afpr that bolts directly onto the stock fuel rail?? it's $149 http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com has them at $144 -------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Sep 21 2004, 03:19 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
yeah, that's definetly a favorites... thanks eric.
-------------------- game over.
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Sep 21 2004, 04:32 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
QUOTE (wortdog @ Sep 21 2004, 07:36 PM) QUOTE (KOU In3 @ Sep 21 2004, 07:32 PM) The Supra pump tends to have less fuel pressure issues and doesn't outright requite an AFPR like the 255 does. This is an untrue statement that really needs to die off. They both should really have an AFPR on a 1G. Well, I'd like to hook up a gauge to test it out, but with the stock injectors, I haven't noticed any idle or ostensible rich fuel issues by just dropping in the Supra pump. I'd like to verify it with a gauge and AFPR though before standing too firmly on that point though. -------------------- |
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Sep 21 2004, 04:42 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (KOU In3 @ Sep 21 2004, 10:32 PM) QUOTE (wortdog @ Sep 21 2004, 07:36 PM) QUOTE (KOU In3 @ Sep 21 2004, 07:32 PM) The Supra pump tends to have less fuel pressure issues and doesn't outright requite an AFPR like the 255 does. This is an untrue statement that really needs to die off. They both should really have an AFPR on a 1G. Well, I'd like to hook up a gauge to test it out, but with the stock injectors, I haven't noticed any idle or ostensible rich fuel issues by just dropping in the Supra pump. I'd like to verify it with a gauge and AFPR though before standing too firmly on that point though. I look at it this way, they either both need one, or both don't. If anything the Supra pump would need it more than the Walbro, since the Supra pump flows more at lower pressures. -------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Sep 21 2004, 06:02 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 774 Joined: 28-October 02 From: Pekin Member No.: 32 |
No matter what you have, it's not like a good fpr can hurt anything.
-------------------- 2009 Scion Tc
1994 Del Sol Si 1991 Talon TSi AWD 1990 Mustang GT FOR SALE!!! |
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Sep 22 2004, 01:13 AM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
QUOTE (JMoushon @ Sep 22 2004, 12:02 AM) No matter what you have, it's not like a good fpr can hurt anything. Except your wallet. Kidding there. You're right. It's a supporting mod that a lot of people like to try to skip and seem to be kicking themselves later for holding out on it. -------------------- |
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Sep 22 2004, 08:24 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
forget about money... is there a fpr that anyone recommends as the best? and are the kits with the gauges worth it?
once again, thanks for a plethora of information -------------------- game over.
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Sep 22 2004, 10:48 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
I have been holding out on the FPR with my Walbro 255 installed, looks like I will haave to continue to hold out, as I will not even be in the country for over a year
-------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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Sep 22 2004, 11:20 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 31-March 04 From: Chambana Member No.: 268 |
from what i've seen and heard some cars get away with out, some cars don't...
imo, it's something that should be done.... -------------------- game over.
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