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[ranta18]

Sweet numbers on the H22/Del Sol

We finished up that H22/Civic Friday and put down 185 whp and 155 tq
http://www.rndauto.com/tom.htm
13's on street tires in that car will be easy.

Too bad Rizzo didn't go. For how much smack he talks about Honduhs, Ryan might have felt dumb seeing a Civic making more power than he did.

[haunter]

Sweet numbers on the H22/Del Sol

We finished up that H22/Civic Friday and put down 185 whp and 155 tq
http://www.rndauto.com/tom.htm
13's on street tires in that car will be easy.

Too bad Rizzo didn't go. For how much smack he talks about Honduhs, Ryan might have felt dumb seeing a Civic making more power than he did.

more HP but prolly not TQ as Ryan threw down 372/372

[ranta18]

Its all about the POWA though. I guess they can compare time slips later this year.

[wortdog]

Pump gas sucks. 

288hp on 15psi, max torque of 335 but it probably missed the real torque peak as its usually down around 2500rpm instead of the 3700rpm that WOT for the run started at.

How many counts of knock was that at bro ?

Only 3 counts of knock on that run.

[haunter]

Its all about the POWA though. I guess they can compare time slips later this year.

I guess we can agree to disagree, but I call both TQ and HP POWA

afterall, HP is just a function of TQ and RPM's isn't it?

but isnt rizzo over 400 WHP now

[JMoushon]

HP=(TQ X RPM) / 5250

Pretty sure that is the proper equation. Please correct if I'm wrong, but that's it off the top of my head.

[jvb6806]

correct me if i'm wrong here.  but i thought ryan threw 372hp????

yeah you are right sorry. it was 372 my bad. i don't know where that 2 came from. i ment to type 369. i think that was what he put down in his first run. anyways very impressive number for being untuned with a few bolt-ons .

[RacerX11]

Too bad Rizzo didn't go. For how much smack he talks about Honduhs, Ryan might have felt dumb seeing a Civic making more power than he did.

Might have, if he had shown up. Ryan did show up, and put down the numbers...sounds like he is allowed to talk some smack. Where was Rizzo? Your boy let you down...he should have been there to back up all your smack.

Marty

[xian 1g]

Sweet numbers on the H22/Del Sol

have to disagree with your definition of sweet here.

h22 rated at 200 - 220 at the crank... he pulls 179-85 to the wheels... i'd call that expected... hope to god he didn't have any mods on the car if you consider that sweet.

[haunter]

Too bad Rizzo didn't go.  For how much smack he talks about Honduhs, Ryan might have felt dumb seeing a Civic making more power than he did.

Might have, if he had shown up. Ryan did show up, and put down the numbers...sounds like he is allowed to talk some smack. Where was Rizzo? Your boy let you down...he should have been there to back up all your smack.

Marty

and I am with xian on the sol

I was pissed and I put down 123whp, one less than the stock rated crank, yet he is happy he is making stock whp


I would pissed if I hadnt, and content if I had, on a bone stock motor, atleast I thought it was, I didnt take a big look under the hood as I was busy fixing my own issues, well some of them atleast!

[ranta18]

Man, you guys sure like to be negative. Go read up on what a stock H22 normally pulls on the dyno and then talk. I think I know a little more about them than you. 185 at the wheels for a stock motor with a intake and exhaust is a good number. Plus I was being nice and giving the guy props for dynoing and having that motor in a del sol.

H22 Flywheel Ratings:
USDM H22 (10:1)
190 HP @ 6800 rpm
158 TQ @ 5500 rpm
JDM H22 (10.6:1)
197 HP @ 6800 rpm
161 TQ @ 5500 rpm

That would mean he is making around 15 hp more than the JDM motor.


Oh well... I'm sure Rizzo won't let me down at the track

[haunter]

Man, you guys sure like to be negative. Go read up on what a stock H22 normally pulls on the dyno and then talk. I think I know a little more about them than you. 185 at the wheels for a stock motor with a intake and exhaust is a good number. Plus I was being nice and giving the guy props for dynoing and having that motor in a del sol.

H22 Flywheel Ratings:
USDM H22 (10:1)
190 HP @ 6800 rpm
158 TQ @ 5500 rpm
JDM H22 (10.6:1)
197 HP @ 6800 rpm
161 TQ @ 5500 rpm

That would mean he is making around 15 hp more than the JDM motor.


Oh well... I'm sure Rizzo won't let me down at the track

sorry, I was given different numbers than that for motor ratings that made it much less impressive, but I will take your word for it

[ranta18]

Its cool. I wasn't trying to be cocky about my H22 knowledge. Its just that I know that motor inside and out and what it does hp wise stock and with mods. I was mainly saying good job to the kid who owns it and I bet that car is quick (high 13's) for just a swap and stock engine.


On topic... we should edit the first post to have a listing of the dyno results and the car/engine they had.

[eclipgst]

Nice spy.

[Ryan02Stang]

Too bad Rizzo didn't go.  For how much smack he talks about Honduhs, Ryan might have felt dumb seeing a Civic making more power than he did.

Talkin smack with someone elses car again?

I don't talk shit about Hondas...just yours.

Come talk to me when you've either beat my times at the track with your car that we shall not name...or out dyno it. Until then shut up.

This post has been edited by awd4kicks: Jan 27 2005, 03:05 PM

[ranta18]

Ryan makes me laugh.

Just razzin ya Ryan.... I should be at BOTI with my car.

[Ryan02Stang]

I should be at BOTI with my car.

Special Olympics?

[KOU In3]

Man, you guys sure like to be negative. Go read up on what a stock H22 normally pulls on the dyno and then talk.

Ok, I've done some of the reading. Here's what I found:

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"was looking at stock mostly stock h22a dyno charts, motors ranging from 1994-99, and they were putting out all different kinda of numbers like anywhere from 155whp to 185 whp..."

"my 92/93 h22a put down 176 hp and 152 ft/lbs with high miles egr system not working, with an intake and exhaust only"

http://www.the car that we shall not name-highend of the car that we shall not name.net/forums/archive/...hp/t-98185.html

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2.2 ltr
H22A 2003 185 HP
JDM H22A 2003 192 HP
H22A 2003 184 HP
H22A 2003 164 HP
JDM H22A 2003 170 HP
H22A 2003 204 HP
H22A 2003 176 HP
H22A 2003 177 HP
Prelude VTEC 2003 165 HP
H22A 2003 206 HP
JDM H22A 2003 191 HP
JDM H22A 2003 166 HP
JDM H22A 2003 172 HP
the car that we shall not name Prelude JDM 5/8/01 166 HP
Prelude Type SH 5/8/01 155 HP
Prelude JDM 5/8/01 187 HP
1994 JDM H22A 11/23/00 170 HP
1995 H22A 11/23/00 190.8 HP
99 Prelude 10/28/00 164 HP
96 H22A 10/16/00 178 HP
JDM H22A 10/7/00 166.5 HP
93 VTEC H22A 10/7/00 174.3 HP
1994 H22A1 9/24/00 199 HP
1993 JDM H22A 9/20/00 165.4 HP
1994 H22A 9/20/00 176.4 HP
95H22A 9/14/00 162.8 HP

Dynos and dates of NA H22's from
http://www.importreview.com/d_2.2.html
Individual mods and charts available at the link
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Personally, it seems with a 197hp (assuming most swaps are getting JDM motors) starting point. I'd expect it to bump to somewhere around 220 at the crank after intake, header, exhaust, + basic mods (not positive what all he had done as I was a bit busy that day). Take off a 15% drivetrain loss from there and you've got 187 (assuming my poor math skills are up to par).

Not that it's not an improvement over stock but that it should be pretty much what's expected. Everyone's point I believe it that it was nothing shocking.

What did your latest install and dyno tune of that H22 yield?

Also, you have to remember that you're on a DSM site here. So most of us do the mental math on the cost of the swap, exhaust work, etc and realize that we can make much better numbers on DSMs.

Just another way to look at it from most of our perspectives. Take it for what you will.

[ranta18]

LOL!!!! All that just to try and prove me wrong and you still didn't. I don't care what your hours of internet "research" try to show. I know Jeff at Import Builders/Import Review and if you acutally look at the dynos on that site, there wasn't one over 180 that didn't have something other than intake, header, and exhaust done. Most with intake, header, and exhaust made 165-175. Fact is, 184 is a good number for a H22 with just intake, header, and exhaust. And I'm not going to waste my time going around the internet looking for stuff to back up my statements.

Since you asked... The H22 we just did made 185 whp and 155 ft-lbs with a OEM ITR intake, Greddy header, Invidia exhaust, and R&D Auto tuned V-AFC The 155 ft-lbs is also a lot more than most make with those mods or at 185 whp. More info... http://www.rndauto.com/tom.htm

Where did this become a Honduh vs DSM / Money vs Performance thread? You guys seem hell bent on proving me wrong when all I was trying to do was say good job to the kid that had the car. Let it go.

[haunter]

Ryan makes me laugh.

Just razzin ya Ryan.... I should be at BOTI with my car.

I would be careful about biting off more than you can chew on that one ranta