My new project "Ghost"!, 6Bolted2G! Options

[akamiami]

There is a spark plug wire thread in DSMTuners that illustrates an independent test of different wires by one of the members.

that half-assed test was thoroughly discredited by an informed member of that board if you continued to read the thread beyond the initial post. judging an ignition wire by the measured or reported resistance per foot is about as accurate as determining how tasty an apple is by it's color.

[BudmannG]

So more or less buy what I think is right for my application?

[natedogg]

I've used the same set of Accel's for the past 5 years and have never had an issue with them. Or you could always go with a COP setup.

[BudmannG]

I've used the same set of Accel's for the past 5 years and have never had an issue with them. Or you could always go with a COP setup.

I thought about that Nate, But the woman is pissed now because I am buying all this stuff for my car, . But I think I will try the ones I have first then replace if needed.

[BudmannG]

I just wanted to let Turbohcar and Natedogg know. I posted what you guys told me about the mafs on the other site that I freaquent. LOL, They say bullshit.

I don't know who told you 400hp was the limit but that is a load of horseshit. Tons of guys running well over 400hp on the stock MAS. Besides what does 400hp or big boost have to do with running 11s? You should not need more than 25-30psi to run 11s if tuned properly. PJAY runs 11s and I don't think he is quite making 400whp. 90%+ DSM'ers never run "big boost".

[turbohcar]

Excuse me while I bow down to whoever you just quoted off another forum. Obviously they are a superior Intarweb Ninja and whipped me with his words. I lay merciless on the floor next to the keyboard, help me...

I'm quoting directly on a "somebody told me this, I don't have any verifiable sources, it's just what I've been told" basis. Natedogg is the King of Krunk. He, 99% of the time, has actual facts and research to back up his opinion, and therefore I bow down in his presence....under the table.....

I'm the one that said the 2G MAS was limited to 400hp, not Nate. Sue me for being wrong(if I am). Here's one that will really make him mad, "the GM MAFT will support more horsepower than that piece of crap 2G MAS". OOOOOHHHHHH!!!! How do you like that one?!?! Your mother!!

[natedogg]

I don't know about any specific hp numbers, but I do know you can overrun the 2G MAF's. How bout a link to the thread?

Also, the phrase 'big boost' is pretty relative. There's no specific definition there. I should have just left it at big airflow, but big boost + big turbo = big airflow. I know "big boost" isn't necessary for quick runs. I made my 12.02 run at 23-24 psi. Boost has less significance on hp output than actual airflow does. 25 psi on a 14b is a lot different than 25 psi on a GT35R.

If I had known you were going to post my words on another forum for people I don't know to pick apart, I would have been more careful about how I worded it. We are a tight knit group here and I know most of the people on here personally so they get the gist of what I'm saying from experience.

[natedogg]

"the GM MAFT will support more horsepower than that piece of crap 2G MAS". OOOOOHHHHHH!!!!

Exactly.

[BudmannG]

I don't want to make you guys mad. It wasn't for that, these guys on Gateway are just giving me shit because I want to run a blow through system.
I myself have seen peoples numbers on the track that have almost the same mods, but not mafs. And from what I have seen people that run the GM mafs have better numbers.
I am sorry if I have offended you guys. I do take your words as gold, as I am not very familiar with the setup. I promise I will not do that again.
And the quote came from dsmnightmare, as he is the owner/operater of GatewayDSM.org. and a member on our site also. Thanks guys and sorry once again!

[The Iron Goat]

You do understand that having a MAF doesn't mean you have to run a blowthrough setup, right? Many members on this board are running a draw-through setup, and things are just fine. Nate can give you some solid theory on the pros-cons to both. Just wanting to have a bov vented to atmosphere is pretty lame IMO. The 1g cbv is rock-solid and much cheaper than aftermarket.

[AWD DSM 1]

You do understand that having a MAF doesn't mean you have to run a blowthrough setup, right? Many members on this board are running a draw-through setup, and things are just fine. Nate can give you some solid theory on the pros-cons to both. Just wanting to have a bov vented to atmosphere is pretty lame IMO. The 1g cbv is rock-solid and much cheaper than aftermarket.

Agreed.

[black92_tsi_awd]

I'd like to hear any arguments on blow through vs draw through maf setups. I haven't figured out how I'm going to do my setup yet.

[BudmannG]

Yeah well, My setup has just changed all together. Not because of what you guys are saying. But because of the BOSS! I had to give up the turbo, and injectors so far.
God only knows what she wants me to give up next! Maybe my left or right juggular!

[BudmannG]

I have updated what is going to be on my car. SUX!

[awd4kicks]

Ummm... Yeah. Big Air flow and big boost are both relative. I don't plan on running any over 30psi on my GT3052 and I call that both big boost and Big air flow. Aparently that is small potatoes in the eyes of some.

PS: You really need to be careful about taking one response from a thread out of context. I very rarely trust one opinion on a web site anyway unless I know the person or their experiences. Most people outspoken enough to blurt out the first answer usually just like to hear themselves talk (or uhm... type).

[natedogg]

For some theories on draw-through vs. blow-through check out this thread.

http://www.dsmcentral.com/invision/index.p...st=0&#entry5567

[BudmannG]

So should I still buy a wide band O2 for this stocker?

[wortdog]

Blow through works great on the Buick, 3 inch sensor with 3 inch pipes. Throttle response picked up also. Most stock 2G MAF's overrun somewhere around 450whp, some as high as 500whp, hacked ones can obviously go higher. 1G MAFs can be overrun by a healthy EVO III 16g.

[turbohcar]

^^^^ He said it not me!

J/K. Eric, a.k.a. Wortdog, is an engineer in the making and he is definitely a dependable source as well.

[SCCA Stang]

not sure if my opinion here can help or not.... I am definately not in any kind of league, engineering wise, as nate or eric, but I am currently running a 3" GM MAF and a translator setup as a draw through by NC Galant and it seems to work good.... I have had no problems with it.

as far as your spark plug wires are concerned, I am using NGK (8mm, I think) wires on my car for the past 2+ years with no problems out of them either.... they seem to work well and would probably work well for you too...

just my .02

Ben