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[scorp28]

I understand that things change and sometimes they must change to keep up with the times. I have noticed some changes over the last year or so that to me were noticeable but not really a big deal but I agree with some of the others that if things continue in the way that quite of few of the members are talking about both in this forum and in person then I believe that quite a few memebers will be driven away. Yes I know that we have 700+ members, but how did we get that many? Answer: by being the board that we have been the past 6 years and giving people the freedom to discuss whatever is on their mind to a certain extent. I also seems and I have noticed this for a long time now that at times it depends on who you are as to what you are allowed to talk about.. I have seen people start topics that were not even close to being on topic that lasted for days and had multiple pages then I have seen people post things and be immediatly(sp.) told to keep it on topic. Such as items that they are trying to sell. Who is to say that someone that is selling item X is not going to use that money on their car but another person can post something that has nothing to do with a DSM and nothing is said about it. Think back and look back through posts over the years and you will see what I am talking about. I am not trying to flame anybody or offend anybody here just state facts that have been discussed by many people in the real world in person.

Basically what I am trying to say all in all is I love this site but as the old saying goes.........If it isn't broke fix it till it is.....................be careful guys .

[awd4kicks]

Point taken, but you have to remember this has been a hobby for us all, including me. This is not a full time job nor do I want it to be. So you will find many instances where I was not online to catch something or times where I just didn't feel like dealing with things at the time. This is why I brought three more DSM Brothers onboard as moderators to help pick-up my slack. They have been doing a great job, but you will always see slightly different ways of handling things when different people are involved in making the decisions.

As far as some getting special treatment at times this is not meant to exist but I am not suprised that it does on occasion. Whether it's lack of time, energy, or not wanting to upset a friend...these things have happened.

Aside from Image's, Spy's, and a couple others outbreaks of E-fits, this site has gone exactly as I would like to see. No offense to these guys, they know what and when they are doing things outside my opinions of the guidleines set at the beginning, and they are getting better. That doesn't mean everyone can go and try ignore rules and get away with them.

Honestly I am very upset at how useless some of the other forums have become to us due to the BS trolling, post whoring and arguments that go on there. Those could have been great and meaningful sites of reference if it were not for the trash that is thrust upon them by a few wacked members. I don't want those type problems on DSMCentral and if people that enjoy those things get offended by any of these guidelines and decide not to come around, it wont hurt my feelings any. If the majority agrees that they all want a site that will throw itself to oblivion with the rantings of this worlds views on equality for troublemakers then I want off this ride.

Marcus

[natedogg]

As always, well said, Kicks.

[fastclipse82]

i know im posting on this subject a little late but I have to get my .02 cents in. I guarentee the strict rules will run people off. Look at GatewayDSM for example. It used to be huge. People had fun talking about cars and yelling at each other. Then it changed and if you even think about posting somthing off topic or tell someone that theyre an idiot even if you just joking, itll get deleted. I usually see about 2-4 post a day on there because its absolutely a ghost site. I like this site much better. But if you have to change it then come over to buds site that he started. He wants a fun site with not so many rules. its
http://midwestillinoisdsm.com/index.php?act=site

[BudmannG]

Very poor taste if you ask me..

This site does what it does very very well.. Keep up the good work people..

Drew- I know your trying to help my site out and all. But I do have to agree with Image it could have been done more tactful.

Marcus and all the board members I personally apoligize for this. This is not the way I want to get members to my site. I also did not start my site because of the change here. I just wanted to hang out and get something started in my own area. That is all, I hope my site turns out as well as Marcus' has.

I feel my sig does enough advertising for me.

Once again "I am sorry for this out burst" .

[mitsu90]

I also agree. even though I hope bud the best of luck with his site that was not the way to do it. shame on you drew.

[The Iron Goat]

Chamber: opened
Shells: loaded
Close chamber.
Cock hammer.
Lay bead.
Commence firing.

Drew, just who the hell do you think you are to come onto this forum and suggest our members defect to someone else's site due to some misinformed assumptions made on your part? Oh, what's that? I sound a bit abrasive and harsh? YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I AM!!!! I will defend this site in current state with every resource available to me, and I'm sure the masses are forming around me as well.

I may only be 120lbs dripping wet, but I'm not looking for a fight. Just shut your mouth and enjoy what's a terrific site, or shut up. Or you could keep running that mouth and lose every right you have to acess this site. Entire portions of state's are blocked acess for this very reason. Don't beleive me? Ask Natedogg.

Three shots.
Center mass.
Target down.
Reloading and standing by.

[BudmannG]

Kicks once again man I am sorry! I can not stress that enough to you for what was said. I took care of it on my end.

Drew, I removed your mod rights. I removed them because of the comment made on DSM Central. You handled that the wrong way and I had to make an apology. I don't want you to take this the wrong way. But you would do the same if you were in my shoes. I DO NOT want to promote my site that way. And I just hope Kicks accepts my apology.

You can handle it any way you see fit. That is just how I handled it!

[asiankid91]

ya that was wrong

[fastclipse82]

I dont understand what youre all complaining about. there are about 3 post in this topic about starting another dsm site if this one changes. Therefore, I was saying, dont bother, bud already has one. Im not plugging anyones freaking site, I was just responding to the people that said they should start a new site if this one turns into a tuners style site. Believe me, I know its wrong to come onto a site that already has its on solid core group and try to mess it up. That was NOT my intention. My intention was to let everyone know that if this site goes down the drain that we would just move to buds site. Also im not the first person to mention a new site if this one goes sour. The first people were Spy and Goat! So why the hell are you all being dicks to me. Also, had you read my original post, youd see that I like this site alot. Quite honestly, I thought this was the best DSM site id ever been on until just now. Thats why even though I live 10 minutes away from stlouis, I post here more often then on the gateway site. I think it would lick balls if anything changed. However, I dont know how or by whom this site is ran so when I hear a guy saying it has to change I think it really does have to change. I thought this was a set in stone deal that there would be no more goofing off. My bad. And Bud, dont apologize for me. Ill apologize when ive done something wrong.

[fastclipse82]

Chamber: opened
Shells: loaded
Close chamber.
Cock hammer.
Lay bead.
Commence firing.

Drew, just who the hell do you think you are to come onto this forum and suggest our members defect to someone else's site due to some misinformed assumptions made on your part?  Oh, what's that?  I sound a bit abrasive and harsh?  YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I AM!!!!  I will defend this site in current state with every resource available to me, and I'm sure the masses are forming around me as well.

I may only be 120lbs dripping wet, but I'm not looking for a fight.  Just shut your mouth and enjoy what's a terrific site, or shut up.  Or you could keep running that mouth and lose every right you have to acess this site.  Entire portions of state's are blocked acess for this very reason.  Don't beleive me?  Ask Natedogg.

Three shots.
Center mass.
Target down.
Reloading and standing by.

And Goat, I think telling me that you'd shoot me 3 times in order to protect this website with the rest of the sites members around you because you took what I said out of context is a bit harsh. But if you guys think the moderators should delete my account then fine. Im not going to lose any sleep over something this small.

[The Iron Goat]

I think you're taking this a bit too literally. You see, I don't even own A gun. I was just typing on my keyboard. I suppose I should have used the classic e-spear analogy for my thread.

[fastclipse82]

believe me, I have a reason to get an attitude. and as far as what kind of reflection of buds site I am, i told but that I would post on his site anymore. And im certainly not going to kiss anyones ass because I did nothing wrong. And Goat, I take offense when someone says/types that their going to shoot me even if its over the internet. I think that was a little low.

[fastclipse82]

man, ive been around DSM's for 5 years now. I dont need a bunch of people yelling at me about how what I did was wrong, or telling me that im being childish. I know that the way I worded what I said couldve and did get taken out of context but im really just pissed at the fact that even though im explaining myself you guys are still saying I did something wrong. Im always the FIRST person to admit when I did something wrong. But I didnt do anything this time,therefore I wont apologize. Neither will I allow someone to apologize for me. If there were something to learn from all of this it would be make sure you have more then 5 minutes to type your reply so that you can explain yourself very, very thoroughly. And as far as me not posting on midwest is because Bud apparently thought that what I did was so wrong that he had to apologize for me rather than let me speak for myself. I could give a shit less about the moderator thing. The other guys will do a better job then I would have. Thats what im mad about.

[BudmannG]

I don't understand why your mad. Because I apologized for my site and myself. I felt this was intintional as I am sure everyone else did. I just wanted everyone to know I am not the one who sent you to make that comment. And that is were my apology stands.
I am sorry you feel you can't come back and post on this site or mine! I myself feel this is a childish way to handle it. But that is your decision.

If you notice the people that were mentioning another site did not say any names or plug a site to goto. That is all I wanted to point out to you. Good luck with your car, and wish you the best!

[mitsu90]

I agree with bud and everyone else naming a sit e to go to was wrong, and I agree with you goat did go a little over baor but sometimes it's hard to keep the goat in his cage.

[The Iron Goat]

Well, I apologize for offending anyone anywhere at anytime. I'm a pretty agreeable guy, but I'm equally offended when someone comes on our site and tries to tell us how things need to be. But no one apologizes to me or anyone else about doing that, so I let them know what I think. If someone honestly took that post as a threat to shoot someone, then I'll let you wallow in your ignorance. Mitsu, this isn't guided at you at all, just a PSA from the Goat. And now I await for these posts to be deleted because of a direct violation of the thread's very subject matter.

[awd4kicks]

You guys are alright. You all are aiming for the same thing, but some are worried this site will not be free enough for the normal user. This is causing us to fight about things that are really mute. Even if things changed on this site, there is a lot of controversy over something that hasn't happened to date.

I've tried to clarify over and over that the guidelines mentioned in this post are just that. I would say that 95% of the posts on this site have been tollerable or close enough. There is just some extremes that we need a vehicle to correct by. This is what the guidlnes are for.

As you can tell by my actions over the weekend while typing under the influence. I am far from a perfect example. As you can see, Spyder was able to contain the carnage knowing he was in the right by the guidlines we had set-up. No hard feelings on my end. Just good DSM site working like a well oiled machine!

[fastclipse82]

I will say this one last fucking time. I WAS NOT PLUGGING ANYONE'S SITE!!!!! Apparently you guys arent going to listen to me, so I wont try to explain myself anymore. Lets just drop this whole matter because weve all wasted enough space whoring up this thread.

[scrapin_frame]

and this is why i named my car the sandy vagina... cuz everyone has sand in their vaginas and my car is a bitch too! nice to know the panties get ruffled so easy.
i do not know drew, but i dont see that he did anything wrong. he wasnt recruiting or campaigning. he didnt talk down dsmc and talk up buds site. i think there has been alot of overreaction by members in this thread and i can see why drew is upset. sure he could handle it in a more subdued manner, but we all react differently. we dont know what goes on in his daily life, we dont know if he's had a bad day or is under alot of stress, so for us to judge him based on his defensive replies, really only makes us narrowminded assholes.
you see what ya want to see, and thats the problem