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 Apr 4 2006, 10:33 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin.  Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636  |
I need a good line on a oil pump. How good is the top line oil pump? I know most of you say go OEM but I don't have the money to go that way. If someone knows where I can get a oil pump for cheap or cheaper than OEM, Please let me know.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 4 2006, 10:50 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Used a Topline one in what is now the Goat Rocket... seemed to work fine there. I think slowboy had the oem pump for $250, and the topline was $180... $70, might be worth the oem if you're going balls out.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Apr 4 2006, 11:00 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Don't forget you need the oil pump gears to go in the case..at least for a 1G.
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 4 2006, 11:02 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Topline I used had the gears in it... bolt on and go.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Apr 4 2006, 11:13 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I need this like asap, Or I don't forsee myself making it to slowpony days. And I would really love to go to that event.
Slowpony is who I checked the price through. I had ordered one off of ebay and have not recieved it yet. It is now a month later and I finaly got the gasket kit for the motor. And I ordered them at the same time. So now I am on a search for a oil pump that will get here. This car has exhausted all my funds and my girl is getting mad because it is still sitting. So I will probably go with a topline, I would like to drive my car this year, LOL. -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 4 2006, 11:34 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
The oil pump is the literal heart of your engine. If that goes bad you might as well say good-bye to the engine. Personally, I'd only go OEM, but then again I've never had any personal experience with Top Line.
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Apr 4 2006, 01:10 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
What Nate said^^^
I ordered my pump and gears from JNZ, cost $228 and got it in 2 days! For $40 I'd go with OEM...I'd doublecheck and MAKE SURE the price you got was with the gears. I had one place tell me the thrust bearing didn't come in the OEM bearing set....so you never know. It's better to be safe than sorry. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 7 2006, 09:53 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Well I finally got the oil pump I ordered over a month ago. It looks great! But it is a freakin shame it took me over a month to get it.
If anyone is interested in this guys name, it is "Guit-Guit" on ebay. Now I am off to put a motor together! Woo Hoooo!
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 7 2006, 09:59 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Apr 7 2006, 10:53 AM) Well I finally got the oil pump I ordered over a month ago. It looks great! But it is a freakin shame it took me over a month to get it. If anyone is interested in this guys name, it is "Guit-Guit" on ebay. Now I am off to put a motor together! Woo Hoooo! there is a thread on galantvr4.org about that guy, he seems to f*ck everyone one over 
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Apr 7 2006, 10:35 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
That's the guy I was looking at for a while...hmmmm
Glad I went Oem -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 7 2006, 12:10 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Yes he is a very BAD seller. He wouldn't return my phone calls or emails. Then when I file a dispute against him on paypal, He turns around and files a complaint against me on ebay for non payment. I paid him on the 5th of March and it is now the 7th of April. That is just dirty dealings to me. There is more to this story if anyone is interested let me and I will send you the info.
Know back on subject--- I noticed that the new pump has angled gears and the old one had straight. So I would think this is better, Right? I am also installing the balance shaft eliminator kit on it. This may be stupid but...... The plug that goes in it, does it go in just like the ones on the engine block? And is there a torqe on the bolts that hold the back of the oil pump? Thanks for the help on everything! Seller's Name: M and J AutoWorks Seller's Email: big_junk@hotmail.com -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 7 2006, 12:59 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Do you have the rubber plug or the steel one? THe steel one is harder to drive in and MUST be JB welded not to leak.
I used the rubber plug and pushed it in by hand. I then put JB weld around the plug to make sure it won't leak. Angled gears are the better setup...that's what I got. 12 ft.lbs on the bolts...don't forget the blue locktite -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 7 2006, 01:07 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Thanks for the help man! I have the steel plug, Is it supposed to be pushed like the ones seen on the engine block? Or is it supposed to go in backwards. I looked on vfaq and pic that is there you really can't see that well. OK I figured it out. I guess it doesn't take a rocket scientist!
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 10 2006, 09:50 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I have the pump ready to put on. I need to know how to get the castle plug out of the old oil pump.
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 10 2006, 10:02 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
The plug that looks like a gear on top? I usually take a hammer and a screwdriver and unscrew it by putting the screwdriver on one of the teeth and tapping it with the hammer.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Apr 10 2006, 10:03 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Apr 10 2006, 09:50 AM) I have the pump ready to put on. I need to know how to get the castle plug out of the old oil pump. Yeah, that's always fun. I can usually get it loose by putting the head of a screwdriver up against the edge of one of the "turrets" and tap on the screwdriver with a hammer. It should come loose and then you can unscrew it the rest of the way. |
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Apr 10 2006, 10:09 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I guess it's a good thing I got two extra junk pumps, LOL.
Thanks natdogg. -------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 10 2006, 10:36 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Apr 10 2006, 10:02 AM) The plug that looks like a gear on top? I usually take a hammer and a screwdriver and unscrew it by putting the screwdriver on one of the teeth and tapping it with the hammer. Haha! Beat me to it by a minute.
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Apr 10 2006, 10:40 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I finally got it out. It took a straight edge chisle and a 8pnd sledge, but I got it. Thanks guys for all the help. At first I thought it was left hand threads, DUH!
-------------------- Thanks, Bud!
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Apr 10 2006, 10:48 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (natedogg @ Apr 10 2006, 10:36 AM) QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Apr 10 2006, 10:02 AM) The plug that looks like a gear on top? I usually take a hammer and a screwdriver and unscrew it by putting the screwdriver on one of the teeth and tapping it with the hammer. Haha! Beat me to it by a minute. you snooze you loose... 
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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