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 May 21 2007, 09:37 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin.  Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389  |
Might have to use my AMS gift certificate on one of these: Tial BOV
Marcus, arn't you running one of these? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 21 2007, 10:21 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Yes Sir.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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May 30 2007, 10:18 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
The tightwad in me decided to give a stock BOV another chance so I've got one coming. I'll try crushing it if it won't hold 20 psi.
I may try to lap the piston in the Turbo Xs BOV to see if I can get it to seal. It's junk otherwise so I have nothing to lose. Got my Symborski Shifter Kit from MACH V yesterday. So that's going in this week to try to tighten up the shifter. I'd really like to fix the rear suspension (all camber bolts rusted tight) but I don't see how I can easily cut them out. Does anyone have access to a plasma cutter, and the ability to use it!  Seems to me a plasma would make sort work of all the bolts. I could then burn out the old bushing, replaced them with urathane and get the damn thing aligned finally!I could then upgrade the struts to KYB's....and if anyone has seen my car launch, they can see it needs struts.- the front end rises 8" and th back looks like it bottoms out! -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 30 2007, 11:46 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Some stiffer suspension springs might help too.
 Have you seen this mod you can do to the stock 1G BOV? http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_bov_mod.html I performed this mod and was able to hold over 30 psi as long as the added tube was referencing atmosphere rather than engine vacuum. I ended up upgrading to a Tial anyway because I needed the extra flow to avoid compressor surge. |
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May 30 2007, 12:15 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
I also performed the mod. that Natedogg referenced. I liked it much better than the crushed 1G. This mod allowed the BOV to work like normal, only at a higher psi, where the crushed BO seems like it's about to blow apart when it finally releases.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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May 30 2007, 01:37 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I just saw that link the other day, haven't had time to really read it and check it out. I guess I will
Stiffer springs would probably help too. But is like a upgrade circle all hinging on the rusted camber bolts....can't add new strut,s can't add new springs etc until I'm able to get the bolts loose and the supension updated to be able to get the alignment done after I change everything. 
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 2 2007, 09:35 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I got the Symborski Shifter Kit from MACH V installed today...kind of. The bushing that replaces the stock rubber part are nice quality and fit well.
However the sleeve included in the kit is no good. It's too long to fit in the mount (stock 2.595" long, the Kit's is 2.625") Also it's supposed to tighten up the pivot bolt slop. The stock sleeve measures .323" ID, the Mach V sleeve has an ID on one side or .321 and .323 on the other. So that's not really improving anything. I guess I'll email MACH V Monday and see what they will do. I got another stock BOV, but it won't hold 20 psi during a pressure test. Looks like I be doing the "dodge garage" mod to it. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 3 2007, 08:31 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Jun 2 2007, 09:35 PM) Looks like I be doing the "dodge garage" mod to it. Please explain this "dodge garage" terminology. I only speak General Motors and Mitsubishi. 
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jun 3 2007, 08:53 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Jun 3 2007, 08:31 PM) QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Jun 2 2007, 09:35 PM) Looks like I be doing the "dodge garage" mod to it. Please explain this "dodge garage" terminology. I only speak General Motors and Mitsubishi. http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_bov_mod.html Come on Turbo...you're not paying attention to my thread... 
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 7 2007, 12:52 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Tried to rebuild the shifter to take all the slop out of it, and thereby only leaving my crappy driving responsible for missing shifts
I tried ordering all new plastic bushing to get rid of all the shaft wiggle, but apparently they are now longer available. I did pick up a new centering spring. I haven't taken the car out yet but it definitly helps guide the shifter more positively into third gear. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 7 2007, 07:52 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Jun 3 2007, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (turbohcar @ Jun 3 2007, 08:31 PM) QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Jun 2 2007, 09:35 PM) Looks like I be doing the "dodge garage" mod to it. Please explain this "dodge garage" terminology. I only speak General Motors and Mitsubishi. http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_bov_mod.html Come on Turbo...you're not paying attention to my thread... Derrr  I've seen that one before, but never attempted it myself. Let us know how it works! -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jun 8 2007, 07:41 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I just finished modifing the BOV last night per that website. Going to install it tonight and I'll see how it does at Cordova Sat. Going bracket racing again...
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 8 2007, 09:35 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Intial test of the modified BOV looks good. Held 20+ psi boost when driving
Funny thing is, it still leaks air under a boost leak test. I don't understand that...it should hold tight.Didn't get to run too much, I found a bad front tie rod end and just finished fixin her up. The rod end was pretty loose, glad I found it at home and not at the track. Steering wheel is a little more off center than usual, but it drives Ok. We''ll see what tomorrow holds.... -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 13 2007, 06:59 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Short version of the track outing Sat...car went 12.65 on a 12.78 dial on the brakes through the light. Going by the 1/8 mile time, it was a 12.4-12.5 run....Oh well. I'm definitly learning the world of bracket racing. Air temp plays a huge difference, and I need to start paying attention to it.
Suspension question: If I upgrade to adjustable KYB AGX's, can I replace the rear first to stiffen up the rear (compression wise) and then at a later date replace the front struts? Or will that cause major handling problems?? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 30 2007, 08:37 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I guess I'm going to be such a tightass and order some suspension parts.
To replace the struts with KYB AGX's I only need to get the struts themselves correct? Can the stock rod covers and upper plates can be reused? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 30 2007, 11:48 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
Yeah, they're direct replacements for the stock struts and shocks, so all of the stock items work just fine.
-------------------- Eric Wort
87 White Buick Turbo 'T' (11.71 @ 116.5, 1.61 60ft, slipping trans) 92 Teal Eagle Talon TSi AWD (burn victim) |
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Jul 7 2007, 08:58 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Heading again to COrdova today for some bracket racing...100 degree heat index today so I won't be breaking any personal records!
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jul 7 2007, 01:19 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Good Luck Chris. Let us know how it goes!
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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Jul 9 2007, 06:36 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Went pretty well. Had a nice wind to keep the mid 90's temp managable.
I decided to try really hard for consistency and went with an easy tune, especially with the high temps and high humdity. These where qualifying runs: 12.976@106.29 with a r/t -.143 13.023@106.61 with a r/t .010 13.003@106.59 with a r/t .002 First round of eliminations: 12.99 dial ran a 13.099@106.32 with a r/t .020 Second round 12.99 dial ran a 13.000@106.08. Unfortunately I went red (-.059) but the other guy ran a .001 r/t and a 12.047 on a 12.04 dial....basically a perfect run for him! Track was somewhat slick, my 60's were in the 1.8-1.9's instead of the normal 1.7's. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jul 9 2007, 09:11 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Excellent job man! I am continually amazed at how well your project handles the track time. And consistancy...Talk about some good runs!
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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