 Metal headgasket and arp's, Not expecting an answer |
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  Oct 23 2003, 08:35 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak  Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24  |
Do you have to retorque a head after using a mitsu metal HG and ARP"S?
I'm getting coolant pushing through my overflow again 
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Oct 23 2003, 09:33 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Hey smart a$$, your not supposed to have to retorque them but better safe than sorry. I've retorqued mine in the past with a metal head gasket. If you are pushing boost past the gasket into the cooling system and you've caught it early enough (Not warped), it is surely worth a try.
I had this exact problem just recently and had my head milled and I installed a new gasket, with copper spray just to be safe. Then I torqued the head studs to 100ft/lbs in 10 lb increments! Talk about being conservative on an install. Do all that you can. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Oct 23 2003, 10:19 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Oct 24 2003, 03:33 AM) Hey smart a$$ no doubt. I retorqued mine when I did it just to be safe too. Turns out it wouldn't have mattered though, I didn't budge the bolts one bit in the process. Here's the weird thing though. I always hear people bitching about how they never get their metal HG to seal well and they always say that the head and block have to be perfect in order to get it to work. However, when I did mine, I just used the same head I'd been using for a long ass time, scraped most of the old composite material off with a razor blade edge, no copper spray, and just torqued it to 85 ft/lbs in 30 lb increments. Worked like a charm. -------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Oct 23 2003, 10:28 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
I'll try the retorque but if it doesnthelp......Anyone know of a good 1g head for sale?
Smart Ass? My ?'s dont really get answered around here....... Thanks Kris and Marcus 
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Oct 23 2003, 10:32 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
Damn, I did know of a good head....till I found out that mine was fubared the other day, now I'm going to be using it. We're going through head(s) around here pretty fast. Almost as fast as Nate gives it. AW, SNAP!
-------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Oct 23 2003, 11:07 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Bwahahaha...
Oh and by the way that's a good point about the torque wrench not budging when you go to retorque them. Mine didn't budge either. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Oct 24 2003, 06:30 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
Chad at FC Customs has a couple heads...I was kinda looking for one that was already built. I dont wanna use the hodge podge of internal in ours.
2g head ,90 rockers,newer lifters and who knows where the valves came from. Along with the fact that I think the stock springs and retainers could be a weak spot in the build I'd just like to do it better if it comes off. |
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Oct 24 2003, 08:32 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (kris @ Oct 23 2003, 10:32 PM) Damn, I did know of a good head....till I found out that mine was fubared the other day, now I'm going to be using it. We're going through head(s) around here pretty fast. Almost as fast as Nate gives it. AW, SNAP! As fast as Nate GETS it...SNAP! The MONSTER! Its doin that lady!!!! (heheh...don't try to understand it) |
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Oct 24 2003, 08:59 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
sheee-at, we all know why your bride was smiling down the isle on her wedding day. She had a grin like this
Super, you're using a 2g head? Why not a 1g, then you'd be able to take advantage of the 1g intake manifold. -------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Oct 24 2003, 09:39 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 396 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 8 |
I've wondered myself if I should retorque the head. I might acutally increase the torque. I'm currently at 110 ft/lb. Warning!! Use plenty of moly lube and new head studs. I have snapped 4 or 5 ARP head studs and lesser torque
Darryl -------------------- |
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Oct 24 2003, 05:10 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 3-October 02 From: Springfield Member No.: 24 |
The 2g head was ported and polished very very nicely along with a hone match on the intake for the 1st gen TB. I know I know but at the time I knew what was done to the 2g head and had know Idea what was done to the 1g head. Plus we sold the 1g head for good money
 Retorquing is the plan for now...I'll keep you guys posted if you are interested in our money pit of a car. |
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