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 Mar 3 2009, 08:34 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak  Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799  |
So after the 1G I got didn't work out, I've been parting it out and should have it completely gone on Saturday.
A buddy is buying my transmission from TRE as well. I will have ~$2500 on hand when all is said and done. Friend of mine has a 95 for sale. Didn't say if AWD or FWD but I want the GSX. Has 133k miles on it. Black. Clean. Only rust is on rear quarter. 5spd. I'm a little leery though because of all this I hear about crankwalk and things like that. I have a couple spare things off the 1G I could throw on it (BOV, boost controller) What should I look out for? I know to look for strut tower rust and things like that now... 
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 3 2009, 08:40 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
Crankwalk has to do with the main thrust bearing on the block. The early 1G motors had 3 separate caps for the crank. The later 1G and 2G motors had a solid "girdle" array of caps for the crank.
The best thing would be to replace the block. You can use an early non turbo 4g63, but you would be best advised to put oil squirters in the cylinders (like the turbo blocks had), and, obviously, get the knock sensor in the block, too. check the vfaq website. This is a massively researched topic. -------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Mar 3 2009, 09:31 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
I know what the c word is
I want a DSM I can drive on a day to day basis. I understand they aren't reliable but I have the Cavalier if it breaks. I just don't want catastrophic failure like crankwalk... I hear 95's are the worst for crankwalk... I may as well be patient and wait for a 92-94 1G like I wanted. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 4 2009, 06:05 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 19-September 02 From: New Baden, IL Member No.: 7 |
If you still want a 2G, fine. Just buy an early 1G block, then. Problem solved.
BTW- on this website, daily driving a DSM and reliability do NOT go hand in hand. -------------------- -The original (member) 007. Stop looking at me Spy!!
-98 S-10 P/U creepin' low on stock 15s!! -You come off just a little more intelligent if you know how to spell the insults in addition to saying them |
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Mar 4 2009, 06:28 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
I understand they aren't notorious for being reliable but my buddy's almost stock 1G is still running good after a year of DD..
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 6 2009, 11:22 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
get the 2g,,,, drive it like a grandma until you have a 6 bolt swap ready... then beat the shit out of it till it pops... plus its only like 85% of them that are likely to crankwalk so maybe you will get lucky....
my buddy nate has a 97 gsx (orange/red) that he just rolled 205,000 miles on... yes i said it... 205,000.... he is slowly building a 6 bolt motor in the meantime as well.... -------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Mar 7 2009, 11:16 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 339 |
my buddy's been daily driving a 99 GSX for over a year and hasnt had ANY problems.
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Mar 7 2009, 01:59 PM
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 Post Master Group: Moderators Posts: 516 Joined: 2-September 08 Member No.: 8,139 |
QUOTE (kapoosh @ Mar 7 2009, 11:16 AM) my buddy's been daily driving a 99 GSX for over a year and hasnt had ANY problems. What color is it? -------------------- Need a boost in the pocket book and with your health?
the real deal If your not interested in an extra grand a month, cool beans... Its working for me. |
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Mar 7 2009, 06:38 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Don't blame the cars man! 99% of everything that failed on my Talon has been due in one way or another to me increasing the designed performance levels. I can honestly say has to be the most misunderstood fact about DSM's period.
2g better than a 1G? Ehhh I think you just make work, what you like or can afford. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Mar 7 2009, 08:07 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I agree with Kicks...you beat the snot out of a car and it's going to break. And most beat the snot out of their DSM's!
The other thing is a lot of people cheap out, jury rig their cars, don't do general maintenance on a 10 yr old car and then wonder why stuff breaks. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Mar 7 2009, 09:09 PM
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 Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 145 |
QUOTE (awd4kicks @ Mar 7 2009, 06:38 PM) Don't blame the cars man! 99% of everything that failed on my Talon has been due in one way or another to me increasing the designed performance levels. I can honestly say has to be the most misunderstood fact about DSM's period. Exactly. I had my 93 GSX for 13 years with no mods and had zero reliability issues. If you push the car past its design limits, you will break something eventually. -------------------- 1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX - all options except AT & leather *sold*
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Mar 8 2009, 06:45 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
So crankwalk isn't such a big deal if the car is maintained well and not modded? The one in question for me has intake and exhaust and that's it.
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 8 2009, 07:13 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Crank walk is real, and you need to verify that it isn't present in any vehicle you are going to buy. If it is not present with as many miles as a used 2G probably has...then it probably won't be an issue for a while.
Minor things like exhaust and intake are not that big of a deal. It's those little $12 home made manual boost controllers that have made such a good and bad name for DSM's. If you can keep that off the car...it will be just like any other commuter. Then again why would you just want another commuter? That's just me. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Mar 8 2009, 07:52 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
We'll see I guess. My buyer on my transmission backed out so it doesn't matter anyways. Ugh.
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 8 2009, 08:12 PM
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Post Master Group: Moderators Posts: 516 Joined: 2-September 08 Member No.: 8,139 |
DSM's
Rockets on a budget. Making normal kids into mechanics nation wide. -------------------- Need a boost in the pocket book and with your health?
the real deal If your not interested in an extra grand a month, cool beans... Its working for me. |
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Mar 8 2009, 11:49 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 339 |
QUOTE (Dan Boles @ Mar 7 2009, 01:59 PM) QUOTE (kapoosh @ Mar 7 2009, 11:16 AM) my buddy's been daily driving a 99 GSX for over a year and hasnt had ANY problems. What color is it? Maroon? Kind of like kicks color, I think you've seen it driving by me before. 
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Mar 9 2009, 02:17 PM
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Post Master Group: Moderators Posts: 516 Joined: 2-September 08 Member No.: 8,139 |
Sexy ass car.
-------------------- Need a boost in the pocket book and with your health?
the real deal If your not interested in an extra grand a month, cool beans... Its working for me. |
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Mar 9 2009, 04:37 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
That is a nice looking 2G!
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places! |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:09 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Alright so some details.
Kid came over in the car. When I walked out to it I thought it was slightly surging at idle but it turns out it is cammed. Has an intake and exhaust on it. GST. Not sure what else is done to it. All I know is he admitted to dogging the absolute hell out of it with 137k miles on it. We'll see. He wants the same amount I'm asking for my 1G tranny so who knows.. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 10 2009, 11:03 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
I'd be cautious, but if the price is right, then why not
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