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 Nov 14 2008, 11:20 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak  Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799  |
Alright sounds good.
I just got a full exhaust (header, cat delete, catback) for the Cavalier along with an intake, intake mani, cams and supporting valvetrain, and forged internals for it (11:1 compression). My mom and dad said no to the Talon after I hit that deer so I got the Cavalier for an autocrosser now... -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 17 2008, 09:37 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
QUOTE (93dsmowner @ Nov 14 2008, 11:20 PM) Alright sounds good. I just got a full exhaust (header, cat delete, catback) for the Cavalier along with an intake, intake mani, cams and supporting valvetrain, and forged internals for it (11:1 compression). My mom and dad said no to the Talon after I hit that deer so I got the Cavalier for an autocrosser now... Autocrossing a Cav eh? What year? I've got a 98 4 door stock pretty much bare (no power windows/seats,etc), and always thought it'd be a nice light autocrosser except for the rear suspension. What do you think of them? Any experience throwing a turbo on one? (another one of my project ideas...) -------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Nov 17 2008, 10:17 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
2003 with the L61 Ecotec.
It has: Tsudo 4-2-1 Header (2.25" Outlet to catback) No Cat Top Speed Performance Catback (2.5") When I get the funds, it's going to a Wiseco/Eagle combo with a lightened/balanced crankshaft, my DSM 450cc injectors, and E85 tuned with HPTuners. I'm shooting for a 300fwhp n/a high compression monster. I'm considering destroking it to 2.0L so I can rev it real high. It's not too bad. I raced a Honda Prelude with an H22 in it and he didn't pull on me until 3rd which is sad considering the ~50hp advantage although I had around a 400lb advantage. I mean, as much as I'd love to take the stuff off my Talon and make it work, I want N/A for the sheer purpose of no lag under the curve power. My current wish list consists of a lot. Namely: Wiseco/Eagle Combo Destroke it to 2.0L or bore and stroke to 2.5L (Depends on what it would take) DSM 450cc injectors HPTuners Tein SuperSport Coilovers with Pillowball mounts. 17"x9" wheels Addco Sways front and rear, lots and lots of bracing everywhere. And more.. Like I said, these are just ideas being thrown around but I got the car given to me. Has 100k miles on the Ecotec with the 4t40e. I want to 5spd swap it as well. I need a better job... 
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 19 2008, 10:35 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
UPDATE:
The headers are on and the cat deleted. My god is this thing loud... like 1.8L Eclipse with a fart can and straight piping loud. Seemed choked on fuel. Reset the ECU so the fuel trims reset... will have to wait and see. I want to put my DSM injectors and E85 in so bad... -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 20 2008, 09:55 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
QUOTE (93dsmowner @ Nov 17 2008, 10:17 PM) I need a better job... Don't we all lol. One of my buddies owns an engine shop in Fairbury. I need to check with him and see if he's got the equip to do boring work. I know that was on his list of things he wanted to get, but not sure if he's got it yet. Will let you know if he's got it/how much he's charging next time I talk to him. -------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Nov 20 2008, 02:17 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Bore and stroke with Darton sleeves would make a huge help for my goal.
I tossed in 1/4 tank E85 (21.25% Ethanol) and goodness did it pick up -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 21 2008, 08:29 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
QUOTE (93dsmowner @ Nov 20 2008, 02:17 PM) Bore and stroke with Darton sleeves would make a huge help for my goal. I tossed in 1/4 tank E85 (21.25% Ethanol) and goodness did it pick up E85 is 85% ethanol (and if not you're getting ripped off)  When we had a suponsorship from the illinois corn growers, we ran E95. Mixture is somewhere in between gas and methanol, almost exactly midway between, and it runs way cooler. But you also tend to burn more of it. Overall was a good fuel though, don't have to worry about the corrosiveness of methanol, or getting water in your tank since Ethanol will absorb it. The only reason they don't sell E100 is it would fall under the liquor tax if it didn't have some percentage of gasoline. -------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Nov 21 2008, 11:39 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
I know. I said 21.25% ethanol because I only had a quarter tank of it. So divide 85 by 4 to get 21.25.
Math for the win Anyways, if I go E85 I should be able to do high compression (12:1?) so we'll see. Gotta get the $$$... -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 21 2008, 11:33 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
hmm.... I'm beginning to rethink my goal here...
300whp is going to be rough ($$$) naturally aspirated but not too bad with a supercharger/turbocharger... The idea of a 14b Ecotec is sounding better and better every day... -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 22 2008, 12:13 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
Why not just leave the Cavi alone as a good daily driver with great gas mileage and buy something else to toy with........????
Its to hard to have a car the is daily driven and constantly tinkered with. ( i learned the hard way) -------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Nov 22 2008, 02:34 PM
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 Post Master Group: Moderators Posts: 516 Joined: 2-September 08 Member No.: 8,139 |
Somone more wise than I once said...
Never make your daily driver a racecar. -------------------- Need a boost in the pocket book and with your health?
the real deal If your not interested in an extra grand a month, cool beans... Its working for me. |
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Nov 22 2008, 06:59 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Amen brother!
If you can't make it to work...you can't pay for the car. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Nov 22 2008, 09:09 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
I like the way 93' thinks for a 15/16 year old. Very well read 'internet-wise'. I do agree that you should make a race car separate from your daily driver. If for no other reason than to free up your decisions on how to prepare the race car rather than limiting it to street duty.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
Greatness comes from the most unexpected places!  |
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Nov 23 2008, 12:13 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Yeah... not bad for 16 eh?
Meh, I think I'm going to slap the GM Supercharger on it and call it a day. Then there's the next day...
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 23 2008, 10:25 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Full engine mounts being ordered tomorrow. Here I come vibration-city!
Then I think I'm going to start on the suspension and brakes.. Tein SuperSports with either Addco or Eibach sways, bracing bracing bracing all around, and SS Brake Lines on the brakes with high performance pads in front. I can definitely feel heat build up in the brakes in the twisties. Insurance money+Selling my TRE Trans=Fun things for the Cavalier. I can walk to work (Like 2 blocks away) and get rides to/from school so making my DD into a fun car is no big deal. Just inconvenience but it's worth it. Gotta redo my O2 sensor wiring though. )
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 25 2008, 12:29 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
QUOTE (93dsmowner @ Nov 21 2008, 11:39 AM) I know. I said 21.25% ethanol because I only had a quarter tank of it. So divide 85 by 4 to get 21.25. Math for the win Anyways, if I go E85 I should be able to do high compression (12:1?) so we'll see. Gotta get the $$$... Well.. TECHNICALLY... If you had regular pump gas in the extra 3/4, it'd be like 28.75%, as most all standard gas now has 10% lol what was that about keeping it a decent daily driver? Engine vibration != comfortable driving 
-------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Nov 25 2008, 02:09 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Yeah this is true. However, BP doesn't say whether there is ethanol in its gas. Only Invigorate!
Yeah, it's like a massage but better! I'm going to hold off on the trans mount since it's auto-only and I'm looking to 5spd swap it... -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 26 2008, 09:05 AM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Admin Posts: 490 Joined: 15-September 08 From: East Peoria, IL Member No.: 8,716 |
if you do that swap, let me know how difficult it is. I've swapped to manual on a few different cars before, and wouldn't mind doing it with the cav; the differential in my auto is getting kinda loose, and with a 5 speed i could probly bump up to 40mpg
-------------------- 1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Holley 650 Doubler Pumper, MSD 6AL, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers 5 spd Manual Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm |
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Nov 26 2008, 01:25 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
I can get 40mpg in my Auto.
I hate driving like that. It's getting a Shift Kit from B&M in the meantime though.Waiting for the $$$ to supercharge it and get a Tein SS suspension underneath it but it's all good. Gotta find a donor car. Find me a donor for a decent price and I'll do it. I have the welder and whatnot required.
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Nov 27 2008, 09:45 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
if you are going to autocross it, they do sell a rear disc brake conversion for it and someone makes a IRS for it too...
check these sites out www.clubcav.com www.jbody.org -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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