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 Jan 30 2011, 10:12 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather  Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26  |
Sounds good!
Mine is a stage 3 Buscher short block built with 272's and all the tricks. It is supposed to hit full boost long before it does. I think my main problem is my stock, but ported 2G exhaust manifold and my smart but limited street tune on a stock EPROM. A header and a real management system would make it sick. Unfortunately traction is already rediculous at these power levels. Even with AWD I normally can only pull a 1.9 60ft. on the Sumitomos that I have. When I had the 14b at around 375-400hp I was easily cutting low 1.7 second 60 ft. times. So mine will need stickier tires (maybe slicks) to bring the quarter mile times back in line with it's potential. Then of course heavier duty axles will probably be required as they begin to snap under the new level of grip. After 10 years of pouring money, heart and soul into my Talon I am on a much needed break. Stay tuned... Although these are some things to anticipate as you build your project. Good luck and keep up the good work. -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Jan 30 2011, 01:32 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
i know i definetly cant wait until the day you get your talon back out marcus... it definetly does take alot of time, money, blood sweat and tears to build a badass DSM and i have learned over the years myself and from the elder DSMers stories and track time.
I just cant get rid of the addiction... Cars are in my DNA... entire family build and race cars so i knew what i was bound to do as a hobby... The one thing that has struck me the hardest over the years is NOT TO RUSH THROUGH your build because the out come will almost always tear you apart. DO it right the first time and only time!! as i said before, good luck with your build zach, and ill see ya on the streets this summer.... -------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Jan 30 2011, 01:57 PM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
I talked to Joe at SBR about the motor.
Turns out that my motor is going to be a bastard child indeed! Wiseco just release a E85 piston. 10.5:1 comp. Their HD line with the stronger wrist pins. Problem: only in 7 bolt. No problem though. I'm building a 6 bolt. Oil squirters welded shut. Balance shaft delete. New oil pump and forward facing housing for a oil cooler setup since the turbo is oil cooled as well as lubricated. Oh, the rods are Manley I Beam Turbo Tuff rods, which will be re bushed on the small end for the 7 bolt wrist pin diameter. ACL Race bearings, OEM crank. I may decide to go to a more aggressive camshaft as Kelford just released a high lift 274/272 with almost .5" of lift. Kiggly Beehives. SS valves of some sort. Minor porting on the head. I guess there is a large casting mark/ridge in the way of valve entry that causes a large amount of turbulence which fights flow/velocity so cylinder filling suffers. Other than that, I just have to pray the driveline stays together. It's capable of 1000whp on this bottom end if built correctly. This motor won't see the light of day for quite some time but I will be slowly acquiring parts as I get the $$. Pistons and rods will be in the next month or so. I can't wait to build my first motor. All this reading and buying the tools to do it... comes down to this. Oh and Marcus, I know I might not be much help BUT if you ever need or would like assistance, get ahold of me as I'm always free to help fellow DSM'ers. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Feb 10 2011, 06:40 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
So I have the list pretty much down for the shortblock. Fairly simple to piece stuff together that will work and be enough for my goals.
Now the cylinder head.. Valvetrain. Cams... I was going to do the Delta regrinds but I have heard some mixed reviews recently. Good but not the best. BC stuff isn't as aggressive as I'd like. Kelfords are big coin but they outperform the HKS cams of the past. Now I'm hearing about GSC. Everything from the rally car in a restrictor class to a full blown solid lifter race motor.. I'm lookin into the GSC S3's currently... Little more aggressive than the old FP4R's. And GSC's Beehive Spring/Retainer setup. Only time will tell I guess.. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Feb 10 2011, 07:46 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
You better save up for a dogbox trans.
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Feb 10 2011, 08:12 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ Feb 10 2011, 07:46 PM)  You better save up for a dogbox trans. I am planning on one from DogBoxRacing. Already have a TRE Stage 2 with some shot peened/cryo treated/gear detailed gearsets in it, double sync 2nd, 4 spider, ripgrip lsd front. I'm planning on a TRE Max Lock rear end, a true full replacement aluminum driveshaft, and the dogbox with a twin disk. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Feb 10 2011, 09:42 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
cant wait to see this get going! also nice to see this site pick up the past couple days
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Feb 11 2011, 08:04 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
QUOTE (bluzvr4 @ Feb 10 2011, 09:42 PM) cant wait to see this get going! also nice to see this site pick up the past couple days Hell yeah! I fixed my pre turbo exhaust leaks and started it one last time before teardown and you can hear the turbo through the exhaust at idle. Win. Lol. 
-------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Feb 11 2011, 09:16 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
so ur starting teardown now? hey i wanted to ask u too u think u could rebuild nicci's turbo?
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Feb 11 2011, 10:16 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
QUOTE (bluzvr4 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:16 PM) so ur starting teardown now? hey i wanted to ask u too u think u could rebuild nicci's turbo? I meant for the clutch and a couple other fixes and mods while it's down. And I probably could. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Feb 12 2011, 08:01 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
i hope u can rebuild the turbo.
also im ordering a couple parts for the vr4
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Feb 13 2011, 07:57 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
black92_tsi_awd rebuilds his turbos.. Give me a pm I'm sure he can help ya
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Feb 14 2011, 08:58 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
QUOTE (mitsu90 @ Feb 13 2011, 07:57 AM) black92_tsi_awd rebuilds his turbos.. Give me a pm I'm sure he can help ya Yeah when you run a 14b hard you become familiar real quick haha. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Feb 15 2011, 10:53 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
u should see my new pieces of art work i just ordered for the vr4
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Feb 17 2011, 08:40 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Watcha get???
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Feb 17 2011, 09:29 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
im getting ready to order my cat back but nicci (bluzgirl on css) just bought my a sexy fmic
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Feb 17 2011, 10:59 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
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Mar 12 2011, 02:48 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Little update.
Got the clutch back from Clutchmasters. Sent me a 6 puck solid hub at no charge, cleaned up the pressure plate and sent it back. Got stock lower control arms in rear from a friend. Ingalls rear upper control arms. Jay Racing Toe Eliminator kit. Ingalls front camber bolts OEM rear toe arm eccentric bolts New OEM Flywheel alignment dowels (3) New CV boot for driver side outer joint 3qts of Redline MT90 JMFab ISC/FIAV blockoff plate. Yay no more of that crap. I just need to install everything here in the coming week or two and get an alignment at BMW. (-0.5 deg camber F&R and 0 toe F&R to start) -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 17 2011, 06:15 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 18-March 08 From: Washington, Illinois Member No.: 2,799 |
Waiting on Fidanza to call back about getting alignment dowels from them since the OEM ones are DIFFERENT.
On the list: 17"x9" +35mm Enkei RPF1's wrapped in something sticky. Coilovers (K Sport Kontrol Pro's?) When I get the dowels I can assemble the front end and start saving for coilovers and wheels. -------------------- If the sound of a DSM in the distance rowing through the gears gives you a hardon, you might be a car enthusiast.
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Mar 17 2011, 09:16 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 14-December 10 Member No.: 48,824 |
QUOTE (93dsmowner @ Mar 18 2011, 12:15 AM) Waiting on Fidanza to call back about getting alignment dowels from them since the OEM ones are DIFFERENT. On the list: 17"x9" +35mm Enkei RPF1's wrapped in something sticky. Coilovers (K Sport Kontrol Pro's?) When I get the dowels I can assemble the front end and start saving for coilovers and wheels. what u doing with ur old suspension? |
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